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didget69
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I'll toss this into the mix...
https://koolkatzautoglass.com/products/1955-1974-v...-brand-new
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Onceler
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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My understanding is that 17-1/4" glass is for the early (non T style) trim. Hope this is correct, there was some confusion early in this thread.
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sputnick60
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jwold
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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I thought I saved the link to the website, but I saw there was a British company that not only makes windshields to fit KG's but that they were also heated to eliminate defrosting issues.
OK, a quick google came up with these guys which I think was the place I remembered, though I'm not seeing any KG products.
https://www.heatedwindscreen.com/acatalog/vw-heated-windscreens.html
Looks like they do custom jobs so a possible resource. |
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crazy tarzan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| There is I thread all about them, and group buys etc. |
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jwold
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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Just out of curiosity I pinged them and here's their favorable reply:
"Yep made to order.
£360 + VAT and takes around 12 weeks for a one off.
You can choose your tint.
Thanks
Dan
Ricky Evans Motorsport Ltd
Unit 11, Roman Park
Claymore , Tame Valley Ind Est
Tamworth
Staffs
B77 5DQ
Tele 0044(0)1827283688
email [email protected]
Follow us on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/ricky.evans.motorsport" |
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Hokie87
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Onceler
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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Does the 68 use the T-trim?
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Hokie87
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:41 am Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| Onceler wrote: |
Does the 68 use the T-trim? |
Yes |
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Onceler
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| Hokie87 wrote: |
| Onceler wrote: |
Does the 68 use the T-trim? |
Yes |
Did you install the T trim on the rubber before install, or after?
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| Onceler wrote: |
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| Onceler wrote: |
Does the 68 use the T-trim? |
Yes |
Did you install the T trim on the rubber before install, or after? |
You have to install the rubber on the glass, then trim on rubber then whole thing on the car.
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Hokie87
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:38 am Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| Onceler wrote: |
Did you install the T trim on the rubber before install, or after? |
Put the rubber on the glass then put the trim on the rubber then put the whole thing in the car. Just as Braukuche said ^^^ |
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PeteSC
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:40 am Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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T-trim = seal on glass -> trim in seal -> glass in car
C-trim = seal on glass -> glass in car -> trim in seal |
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PolarBearVW
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:24 am Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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Nope - all gone. I guess the website is not real-time with inventory?
"We received your order for a windshield, unfortunately at the moment we are out of stock. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you."
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| PeteSC wrote: |
T-trim = seal on glass -> trim in seal -> glass in car
C-trim = seal on glass -> glass in car -> trim in seal |
Hmm, how do you get the trim to seat when the rubber is sucked in when doing C channeling if it's installed?
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lonotch
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| PeteSC wrote: |
T-trim = seal on glass -> trim in seal -> glass in car
C-trim = seal on glass -> glass in car -> trim in seal |
Hmm, how do you get the trim to seat when the rubber is sucked in when doing C channeling if it's installed? |
You could put a string in it afterwards but I’d put the trim on before if I was doing it.
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Hokie87
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| tjschmidty wrote: |
Nope - all gone. I guess the website is not real-time with inventory?
"We received your order for a windshield, unfortunately at the moment we are out of stock. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you." |
I must have been lucky.  |
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PeteSC
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| PeteSC wrote: |
T-trim = seal on glass -> trim in seal -> glass in car
C-trim = seal on glass -> glass in car -> trim in seal |
Hmm, how do you get the trim to seat when the rubber is sucked in when doing C channeling if it's installed? |
Visualize the C channel - it sits more on the top part of the seal/windshield than into the seal and beside the windshield edge like the T channel, so the window frame is not affecting installation (see photo below how rope is oriented at top of windshield in seal channel....it’s the same plane as the glass, not perpendicular to it). To install the C channel you push it outward as if you’re removing the seal from the windshield, if that makes sense. With the windshield out of the car you’ll spend more time fighting the seal staying on the glass as you try to work the channel in while simultaneously pushing the seal off in that process. No amount of tape holds the seal in place through that....I’ve tried.
With glass installed in the car first the frame holds the seal in place and the channel is easy to install with a window rope and just a bit of silicone spray.
The T channel is opposite because it is sandwiched between the glass/sealframe. Installing it while out of the car is best, and since it’s applied with downward pressure into the seal there’s less chance of pulling the seal off the glass in that process. |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:54 am Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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| PeteSC wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| PeteSC wrote: |
T-trim = seal on glass -> trim in seal -> glass in car
C-trim = seal on glass -> glass in car -> trim in seal |
Hmm, how do you get the trim to seat when the rubber is sucked in when doing C channeling if it's installed? |
Visualize the C channel - it sits more on the top part of the seal/windshield than into the seal and beside the windshield edge like the T channel, so the window frame is not affecting installation (see photo below how rope is oriented at top of windshield in seal channel....it’s the same plane as the glass, not perpendicular to it). To install the C channel you push it outward as if you’re removing the seal from the windshield, if that makes sense. With the windshield out of the car you’ll spend more time fighting the seal staying on the glass as you try to work the channel in while simultaneously pushing the seal off in that process. No amount of tape holds the seal in place through that....I’ve tried.
With glass installed in the car first the frame holds the seal in place and the channel is easy to install with a window rope and just a bit of silicone spray.
The T channel is opposite because it is sandwiched between the glass/sealframe. Installing it while out of the car is best, and since it’s applied with downward pressure into the seal there’s less chance of pulling the seal off the glass in that process. |
Makes sense. So, I assume you put the string in. The channel before you install the glass then? As you slowly pull the string out this open the channel to grab the chrome trim then? What size string are you using?
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:56 am Post subject: Re: New Windshields? |
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Found this advertiser in the classifieds https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1992313
New Ghia Windshield Price: $115
Brand new windshields in stock for both convertible and coupe Ghias. NO SHIPPING...LOCAL PICK UP ONLY!! We also have Cal-look windshield seals in stock.
If these are real, and since they don't ship, if someone was in the area to purchase, they could get and ship for someone, or Pony Express it from Samba Member to Samba Member....just a thought
Jeff
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