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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:13 am Post subject: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Hi Folks! I’m interested in seeing photos of original interiors of bugs if you still have yours. I just saw Seinfeld on the Jay Leno show with a couple of his Porsches, and he’s a big believer in not removing anything original unless totally necessary, and I mean anything. I have thought about redoing my interior from time to time, but he has me rethinking it. I have one spot in my passenger seat that annoys me, but the rest iis rather good. Is there a way to prevent this type of light cracking from worsening? I kind of want to keep the original as long as possible, the car is in a garage so it doesn’t see much sun.
https://fjcolephotography.smugmug.com/VW/i-35Lnv7F/A
With that being said I’d like to see what those 50 year old plus original interiors look like including carpets, headliner, seats. |
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AlmostHeavenWV_VW Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2017 Posts: 1966 Location: WV
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Thanks for the links! I actually read about the car in your second link last year . Great bug. |
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Zar Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2018 Posts: 42 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:47 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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I have the original flooring (vinyl?) in my 68 bug. It looks great but is very brittle. I had to replace my master cylinder and to get to the 2 bolts I have to move the flooring out of the way and it just fell apart in my hands. _________________ 1968 Beetle 1600 SP |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Let’s get some pics of original seats.... |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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When you’re Seinfeld, you can afford vintage cars that are in great shape. I, on the other hand, cannot afford a single vintage Porsche.
When most of us got our bugs, a P.O. had already screwed up any number of things. Original interior? Mine came with black 1973 seat covering. The fit on a 1974 set of front seats was ridiculous. I reupholstered and rebuilt my seats.
I do not like seeing curled, cracked, stretched-out door cards, etc., so I replaced mine. When something gets too old and busted, I replace it. I don’t customize, but I do replace. Most often, I use other parts from other cars from the same era. For instance, the vinyl on my original glove box door was curled away from the edge. I got another original from the Samba Classifieds. One of my original Lemertz Sports rims was bent. I got another from the same source.
But this thread seems to be about interior updating. My take? If it’s old and busted, it’s old and busted. Replace it. I want to sit in a nice, comfy seat—not a cracked, discolored, broken down seat that was not protected from years of use and sun damage.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
Richard O'Brien |
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7304 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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This are factory original seat upholstery and door cards. Pretty boring black, but well-made compared to the TMI stuff.
That said, I am swapping it out for customer TMI covers w/cloth inserts...much more comfortable on hot days. _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!! |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Why would you swap original out if it is still good? I personally wouldn’t. Are there any spots on your seats that show any wear or cracking? |
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7304 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Tiny spot on the driver's seat, nothing big. Black of the door cards dull, no shine, and visually boring frankly.
They do need new cushions. I already have them, so I'm going to brighten up the interior. I'm keeping the original covers so will be *very* careful when removing them in case some future owner wants to go back.....or i might sell them! _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!! |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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They look good in the photos |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Tim Donahoe wrote: |
When you’re Seinfeld, you can afford vintage cars that are in great shape. I, on the other hand, cannot afford a single vintage Porsche.
When most of us got our bugs, a P.O. had already screwed up any number of things. Original interior? Mine came with black 1973 seat covering. The fit on a 1974 set of front seats was ridiculous. I reupholstered and rebuilt my seats.
I do not like seeing curled, cracked, stretched-out door cards, etc., so I replaced mine. When something gets too old and busted, I replace it. I don’t customize, but I do replace. Most often, I use other parts from other cars from the same era. For instance, the vinyl on my original glove box door was curled away from the edge. I got another original from the Samba Classifieds. One of my original Lemertz Sports rims was bent. I got another from the same source.
But this thread seems to be about interior updating. My take? If it’s old and busted, it’s old and busted. Replace it. I want to sit in a nice, comfy seat—not a cracked, discolored, broken down seat that was not protected from years of use and sun damage.
Tim |
The cars he showed on the Jay Leno program were not in mint condition. They had rust, chipped paint, headliners that looked like they were faded and water stained, ripped seats etc. He is of the opinion that the car tells a story, and it’s only original once. |
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7304 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Cars do tell a story, for sure. But....i'm of the opinion that, since they're not living things, so once the story's told, I make bringing it back to a cleaner original-like state with minor mods my part of the story. In your case, Frodge, your Super's original seats look fantastic and not nearly as drab as my '74's black interior. I might stick w/it if it were mine.
That said, one man's "minor mods" might be another's destruction of a pristine beauty. Guess if I found a split zwitter I might leave it as is... _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
Click to view image
Save the Supers!! |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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I’m leaving it for now! It’s a standard 1970 btw. I just watched the Wolfsburg West tutorial. Seems like a pretty involved procedure to do that job with a lot that can go wrong. Like the sears frame points breaking off etc. |
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73SlowBug Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2017 Posts: 439 Location: PENNSYLVANIA
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Tim Donahoe wrote: |
When you’re Seinfeld, you can afford vintage cars that are in great shape. I, on the other hand, cannot afford a single vintage Porsche.
When most of us got our bugs, a P.O. had already screwed up any number of things. Original interior? Mine came with black 1973 seat covering. The fit on a 1974 set of front seats was ridiculous. I reupholstered and rebuilt my seats.
I do not like seeing curled, cracked, stretched-out door cards, etc., so I replaced mine. When something gets too old and busted, I replace it. I don’t customize, but I do replace. Most often, I use other parts from other cars from the same era. For instance, the vinyl on my original glove box door was curled away from the edge. I got another original from the Samba Classifieds. One of my original Lemertz Sports rims was bent. I got another from the same source.
But this thread seems to be about interior updating. My take? If it’s old and busted, it’s old and busted. Replace it. I want to sit in a nice, comfy seat—not a cracked, discolored, broken down seat that was not protected from years of use and sun damage.
Tim |
My interior is as original as possible. Cracked seat covers, plastic dash, steering wheel plastic, and all. I've learned to embrace it. Because that's free. I keep my car absolutely mechanically sound as possible, but I haven't replaced anything on the interior unless it's needed to be functional. I did replace the door panels in the front a few months ago. They were pretty much gone anyway from the carboard getting wet. I put seat cheap covers over top of the original ones, but real "replacement" ones aren't at the top of my list. I replaced my glove box, because the cardboard was pretty much gone. I got lucky enough to be inherit a car that hasn't really been touched, unless it was needed for safety, function, or to keep it running, so I kind of like keeping it that way. It's a "patina bug" on the inside. _________________ Daily driven....Slowly. |
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Frodge Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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73SlowBug wrote: |
Tim Donahoe wrote: |
When you’re Seinfeld, you can afford vintage cars that are in great shape. I, on the other hand, cannot afford a single vintage Porsche.
When most of us got our bugs, a P.O. had already screwed up any number of things. Original interior? Mine came with black 1973 seat covering. The fit on a 1974 set of front seats was ridiculous. I reupholstered and rebuilt my seats.
I do not like seeing curled, cracked, stretched-out door cards, etc., so I replaced mine. When something gets too old and busted, I replace it. I don’t customize, but I do replace. Most often, I use other parts from other cars from the same era. For instance, the vinyl on my original glove box door was curled away from the edge. I got another original from the Samba Classifieds. One of my original Lemertz Sports rims was bent. I got another from the same source.
But this thread seems to be about interior updating. My take? If it’s old and busted, it’s old and busted. Replace it. I want to sit in a nice, comfy seat—not a cracked, discolored, broken down seat that was not protected from years of use and sun damage.
Tim |
My interior is as original as possible. Cracked seat covers, plastic dash, steering wheel plastic, and all. I've learned to embrace it. Because that's free. I keep my car absolutely mechanically sound as possible, but I haven't replaced anything on the interior unless it's needed to be functional. I did replace the door panels in the front a few months ago. They were pretty much gone anyway from the carboard getting wet. I put seat cheap covers over top of the original ones, but real "replacement" ones aren't at the top of my list. I replaced my glove box, because the cardboard was pretty much gone. I got lucky enough to be inherit a car that hasn't really been touched, unless it was needed for safety, function, or to keep it running, so I kind of like keeping it that way. It's a "patina bug" on the inside. |
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73SlowBug Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2017 Posts: 439 Location: PENNSYLVANIA
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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I'll post tomorrow. But my bug is far from a show car... She's a daily driver. _________________ Daily driven....Slowly. |
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vamram Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Frodge - this isn't original but I tried to get it as close as possible. My old '64, before I found Super religion.
Damn, I miss that little car!! _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
Click to view image
Save the Supers!! |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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Victor, that’s looking good!
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
Richard O'Brien |
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markj60616 Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2013 Posts: 130 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:13 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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The original floor liner in my 1970 Beetle gets a lot of attention at shows. That was one of the years for what I call the "bumps" style liner mats. I don't think these are reproduced by any supplier at this time. I will try to get a better photo.
_________________ 1970 Type 1
original paint
original interior
original engine
1978 Type 2 Panel Bus
original engine 2.0L FI
2014 Beetle 2.5L |
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Frodge Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:43 am Post subject: Re: Original Bug Interiors. I’d like to see them. |
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My seats look pretty damned good for almost 50 years old. Just yesterday I noticed this one spot on the passenger seat. I never noticed it before. I never, or don’t think I ever recall this being there, but I also don’t look there often or sit there.I’d like to keep these, but don’t want this to worsen. The car is garaged, out of the sun, and nobody really sits in the passenger seat. Any ideas how to just kind of keep this as is, or repair if it rips? Doesn’t have to be perfect. I really don’t want to go through the expense or hassle for that one spot, when the sears are otherwise good.
https://fjcolephotography.smugmug.com/VW/i-35Lnv7F/A |
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