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dennis 356
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:03 am    Post subject: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

Hi guys,

I have most probably a 1958-1961 B block that I´ve a hard time identifying as the third piece has most likely been replaced over the years.
The third piece shows P 86745 indicating a 1600S from 1960, but the three digit block numbers above the flywheel on the opposite side of the block don´t match the one on the third piece. Further on, the case number is 32619 and shows "1600".
So what I want to ask is, is there another way to pinpoint/identify the block to a certain motor type and year just with the help of the block 32619 number itself?
The motor also carries 502 con rods and has 4 ring pistons, but surely all this can have been replaced back in the days. The lot (incomplete motor more or less in parts) also came with dismantled cast-iron cylinders and 616 04 25 heads.
Can anyone shed light on this mystery?

Thanks,
Dennis
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with motor ID Reply with quote

http://www.356a.com
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:30 am    Post subject: Re: Help with motor ID Reply with quote

I sent a query about it to Eric at 356a.com already months ago but never got any reply....

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

At the 356a site above you enter the # then hit search or try this.

https://porsche356registry.org/chassis
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

PD41 wrote:
At the 356a site above you enter the # then hit search or try this.

https://porsche356registry.org/chassis


Entering #32619 which is a case number, not motor number, shows an engine from 1953 which is nonsens as a ´53 would I guess be a two piece case.
On the 356 Registry I´m not authorized to access the page as I´m not a member, so I´m screwed again.....
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

i have 4 porsche blocks of my own that i was trying to figure out what they came out of...when i typed the numbers in they all came up as invalid numbers...i think that site is more of a registry for existing cars and engines that have been entered into their database and is of no use for a block that came out of a junk car 30 years ago...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

volksworld wrote:
i have 4 porsche blocks of my own that i was trying to figure out what they came out of...when i typed the numbers in they all came up as invalid numbers...i think that site is more of a registry for existing cars and engines that have been entered into their database and is of no use for a block that came out of a junk car 30 years ago...


I also have 4 old blocks and identifying them on 356a.com works flawlessly, but it have to be the P ..... numbers, not case numbers......

Send me those numbers and I´m going try from my computer
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

The main case with the 32619 number and 1600 marking would have been a 1959 1600 Normal engine. It would have had an engine number around P*752xx*. You can get a feel for these case numbers from Pellow's book "Secrets of the Inner Circle"
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

alanhall wrote:
The main case with the 32619 number and 1600 marking would have been a 1959 1600 Normal engine. It would have had an engine number around P*752xx*. You can get a feel for these case numbers from Pellow's book "Secrets of the Inner Circle"


Yep, I´m suspecting about the same and will see the exact production year once I succeed to split the case and will be able to see the stamp under the cam pulley.

Unfortunately I don´t have the book mentioned, but its of course in my bucket list.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

Case solved now after finally splitting the case and removing the cam shaft gear, where under it showed case being from 8/59 (Normal).

Dennis
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

So close! That third piece is 20 digits away from the one I need --- 86725. They were probably sitting on the factory floor together in late May-early June 1960.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help with motor ID Reply with quote

WOW, increadible indeed !!!

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