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VWTortuga336 Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2013 Posts: 125
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:29 pm Post subject: Cargo Door Removal |
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Like lots of people, I'm having a really difficult time removing my cargo doors. I'm trying to weld a bolt on to the screw head, but I can't get good weld penetration. Any tips on how to get the bolt securely fastened onto the screw?
A lot of the posts I've read regarding cargo door removal just say "weld a bolt on". Not having much luck with that! _________________ Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51057 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Cargo Door Removal |
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If the impact driver fails I weld a nut on, the bigger the better so most or all of the screw head shows inside, then there's lots of room to start a good hot drooly bead on the screw head and then herd it over to the nut getting it red hot in the process. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Krustybus Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 442 Location: SE Michigan
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Cargo Door Removal |
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Before you put a torch or a welder to the screws, try this.
https://www.yardstore.com/short-screw-extractor-screw-knocker-old-man-4
Best tool ever.
Put in a bit that matches the screw, snap it into your air chisel and go. Obviously hit it with some PB Blaster or similar before.
I’m impatient and didn’t want to wait for shipping, so I made my own. _________________ Tim |
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EmpiGT Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 2597
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Cargo Door Removal |
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Be careful using an impact style screw extractor. Wear Eye protection. My father was using one like that at his job and it sheared a piece of the Phillips screw that hit him bullseye center of the pupil. He is blind in that eye now. It was awful, it swole up and looked like a ball the size of a small orange of raw hamburger meat with an iris and pupil in the middle. It freaked me out as a 17 year old seeing my dad's eye like that. Probably one of a million chance but still be very careful. |
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the.fordhams Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2004 Posts: 471 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Cargo Door Removal |
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The impact story blinding someone was fairly horrific and sobering - sorry that happened to him.
The last door I had trouble with pushed the solution to new horizons. Usually my favorite #4 screwdriver and its 13mm wrench flats break everything free but not this time. If not I have sometimes cut a long 2" x 2" to an exact length then hammer it into place to brace the screwdriver into the screw head, and then turn the 13mm wrench. Nope. The impact screwdriver thing also did not work and I stopped getting mad as the screw plate was getting loose and somehow undoing the impact effect. So we break out the welder but I too could not get enough penetration to make the welded screw or welded nut thing work.
Sooo... ugly as it sounds, I cut an access slit on the inside of the B pillar and peeled back the metal like a can to expose the other side of the rusted up screw. Somehow soaking this in penetrant, working the screw in and out, in and out I eventually got it to move. I had to careful as the impact had made the plate loose so I had to catch the retaining plate from dropping into the rocker.
To make it all good again, I got one of these but the plate is very simple and you could make your own quite easily. And in fact I had to trim this one to fit better.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211809200B
All good, but now I have a slit to reweld on the inside of the B pillar. Not sure if I would do this again. _________________ 63 OG Turkis Bug project
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sgellis Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2016 Posts: 2002 Location: SW Nova Scotia, Canada
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Culito 11010101
Joined: December 07, 2006 Posts: 5863 Location: Columbia Missourah
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Cargo Door Removal |
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Just started on this adventure on my '64. 6 of the 8 broke free, the two on the bottom front are frozen solid. Already stripped 'em out, so drilling is next.
Does anybody make torx bolts for these? _________________ Copyright CJ Industries, Inc.
'64 standard w/2.0L type 4
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swiss_bulli Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2017 Posts: 123 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:03 am Post subject: Re: Cargo Door Removal |
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Well, I had a very hard time too. Penetration oil like WD40 (or better stuff) did not work, heating and an impact screwdriver neither. I also tried to weld screws with hexagon heads on, but most time I did not get good penetration, because the area is hard to get to or the scew theads broke during turning. In the end, I drilled a small hole into the screw center and used a left-turn extractor. You use it normally with a tap wrench to turn it, but it that got killed too. I welded a nut on it, so I could use a bigger socket. This worked for me, but unfortunately a few scews broke during removal. I now have a few parts still sitting in the theaded plate of the pillar. Is there a good way/place to cut open the pillar and remove the plate (anyone done it and has pictures in a build thead)?
I like to remove the plate to cut new threads into it or if possible just remove what is left from the scews..
That‘s my tool with a good extracted screw (see the damaged threads, maybe that is why it was so hard):
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