Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
instrument cluster - dangling foil connector
Forum Index -> Vanagon Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
dabaron
Samba Member


Joined: June 21, 2018
Posts: 2558
Location: Philly, mang
dabaron is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:09 am    Post subject: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

It appears at some point the instrument cluster has been fiddled with... I'm guessing the speedometer was replaced with that of an older Vanagon. The foil connector that connects to the back of the speedometer on some clusters is just dangling.

1. I have no idea how many miles are on my Vanagon - this is not cool.
2. When was this speedometer used in Vanagons?
3. Is it worth trying to find a different speedometer?

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo

BiWerks Design, LLC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
mdege
Samba Member


Joined: January 16, 2018
Posts: 936
Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
mdege is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

Looks like someone tampered with the dynamic oil pressure circuit. Maybe the buzzer was going off all of the time. I would check the oil pressure switches, the cabling in the engine compartment and reconnect the connector to the pins of the little pcb under the speedo.
_________________
- Michael

1965 21F: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck
1963 Typ3 Notchback project
1988 Multivan Magnum 112i
1984 Standard: My son wanted a bug for his first car
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
dabaron
Samba Member


Joined: June 21, 2018
Posts: 2558
Location: Philly, mang
dabaron is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

mdege wrote:
Looks like someone tampered with the dynamic oil pressure circuit. Maybe the buzzer was going off all of the time. I would check the oil pressure switches, the cabling in the engine compartment and reconnect the connector to the pins of the little pcb under the speedo.


the speedo does not have a connector... thus the reason this a dangling.
_________________
1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo

BiWerks Design, LLC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
mdege
Samba Member


Joined: January 16, 2018
Posts: 936
Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
mdege is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

This is what your speedo should look like:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Someone must have replaced it with an earlier/different version.
_________________
- Michael

1965 21F: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck
1963 Typ3 Notchback project
1988 Multivan Magnum 112i
1984 Standard: My son wanted a bug for his first car
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
crazyvwvanman
Samba Member


Joined: January 28, 2008
Posts: 9895
Location: Orbiting San Diego
crazyvwvanman is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

With that unplugged your van has NO OIL LIGHT unless someone did something else to allow the oil light to still function.

You should make sure you have a working oil warning light.

Mark
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
dabaron
Samba Member


Joined: June 21, 2018
Posts: 2558
Location: Philly, mang
dabaron is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

The face of the speedometer is labelled 805 so i know it's not from a syncro - it appears to be an 83-85 model since it lacks the oil pressure circuit connector.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo

BiWerks Design, LLC


Last edited by dabaron on Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:59 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
crazyvwvanman
Samba Member


Joined: January 28, 2008
Posts: 9895
Location: Orbiting San Diego
crazyvwvanman is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

That is a speedo from an older van.

Mark
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
dabaron
Samba Member


Joined: June 21, 2018
Posts: 2558
Location: Philly, mang
dabaron is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

crazyvwvanman wrote:
That is a speedo from an older van.

Mark


yeah, that's what i figured. i'll check to see if the oil light comes on with the key... i suspect it does not.
_________________
1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo

BiWerks Design, LLC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
borninabus
Samba R&D Dept.


Joined: May 18, 2006
Posts: 4532
Location: Arizona Highways
borninabus is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

that is a speedo from an air cooled van.
all speedos are clearly date stamped. i can almost make it out in the bottom pic in the OP.
you should get the right one and have a functioning oil pressure warning system.
_________________
71 Ghia A/S - 88 Van A/T - 13 JSW TDI 6M/T
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
dabaron
Samba Member


Joined: June 21, 2018
Posts: 2558
Location: Philly, mang
dabaron is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

No oil light on key on... drat
_________________
1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo

BiWerks Design, LLC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AZ Landshaper
Samba Member


Joined: February 08, 2009
Posts: 1698
Location: The Old Pueblo
AZ Landshaper is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

Older vans had a screw on speedometer. My 81 had a screw on speedo and my current 85 has the same version you show (push on). I bought a newer one a few months back but was never able to make it work. Between the diff speedo connector and the buzzer and the rearranged 14pin it was too much work for very little bang.

Ive never seen brown foil. Is that even a bus connector?
_________________
Support Small Business.

-------------------------------------------------------
85 Weekender w/ EJ22
Previously
64, 71, 72, 73, 76, 81, 84, 85 & 87 Campmobiles and Westfalias
and a 67 bug.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
crazyvwvanman
Samba Member


Joined: January 28, 2008
Posts: 9895
Location: Orbiting San Diego
crazyvwvanman is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

85 vans don't need the wires on the 14 pin moved for later clusters or any tach cluster to work.
80-84 use one 14 pin layout.
85-91 use another 14 pin layout.
84 Wolfy vans came with a tach and use the 85+ 14 pin layout.
86+ 14 pin uses an extra wire for a 2nd oil switch, simple to work around if needed.
Different year tachs sometimes don't work with other year vans, the tachs have different electronics in them.

The brown foil is just the back side of the blue foil.

Mark

AZ Landshaper wrote:
Older vans had a screw on speedometer. My 81 had a screw on speedo and my current 85 has the same version you show (push on). I bought a newer one a few months back but was never able to make it work. Between the diff speedo connector and the buzzer and the rearranged 14pin it was too much work for very little bang.

Ive never seen brown foil. Is that even a bus connector?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Vanagon All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.