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baldessariclan Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 1353 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Home Built by Jeff wrote: |
I did actually note that the steering shaft was insulated from the rest of the car, and was not a ground. |
Interesting. I'm not sure how the 1971 and later horn system would work if couldn't ground through the steering wheel shaft connection -- ??
On my car (1971 standard Beetle), there is a grounding strap/wire that is used to jump over the rubber coupler near base of the shaft -- i.e. goes from upper steering wheel shaft to the shaft coming out of the steering box, which is itself connected & grounded on upper tube of front torsion suspension structure.
On the 1970 and earlier models, a brown ground wire (from horn ring on steering wheel assembly) passes down through hole in middle of the (hot) upper steering shaft, and connects below rubber coupler to the shaft coming out steering box once again.
I'm not exactly sure how the 1971 and later Super Beetle steering shafts are connected / grounded, though -- i.e. if they also use a rubber coupler w/ ground jumper strap between upper shaft and steering box? Or are grounded through the upper shaft support bearings, maybe -- ??
I'm sure you'll be able to figure out something clever and fun to make it work, though -- that horn sound is definitely a fundamental part of the Beetle driving experience. _________________ 1971 Standard Beetle — fairly stock / driver
baldessariclan -- often in error, never in doubt... |
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OlzMP Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2018 Posts: 15 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Not to crash the party on this one but I've now set up a Youtube channel too. Although I won't be documenting my Beetle project quite like Jeff, I will be posting my travels, adventures and films I do that all involve my Beetle Fizzy.
Quick disclaimer: I have 0 knowledge of cars (I'm 18 and have only had the beetle 2 months so give me a chance okay). An 18th century peasant would be better at fixing cars than I would but hey ho !!
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I hope to keep the channel updated fairly consistently as I have two big trips in the next two weeks with the beetle and then lots of films planned with him down the line.
Enjoy
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Home Built by Jeff Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2018 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Looking good mate. That is what YouTube is all about, just getting out there and giving it a go. |
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Dark Earth Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2015 Posts: 1054
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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You know you can imbed a youtube video in your post, right ?
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_________________ My Build: '69 Baja - Dark Earth Version
~I'm almost done. I just lack finishing up.~ |
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plagos_g Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2015 Posts: 82 Location: Santiago, Chile
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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I may not start a youtube series about my bug, but these threads have helped me decide I will keep a record of what I do to mine in these forums...
Patrick _________________ 1998 Volkswagen Sedan (MexiBeetle, daily drive)
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Home Built by Jeff Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2018 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Dark Earth wrote: |
You know you can imbed a youtube video in your post, right ?
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I didn't realise I could on this forum. I just went back and changed it on my last post, and I will from now on. Thanks. |
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Dark Earth Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2015 Posts: 1054
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Home Built by Jeff wrote: |
I didn't realise I could on this forum. I just went back and changed it on my last post, and I will from now on. Thanks. |
No sweat. I look forward to your next video. _________________ My Build: '69 Baja - Dark Earth Version
~I'm almost done. I just lack finishing up.~ |
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Home Built by Jeff Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2018 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:15 am Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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This week I fix the fuel pressure but I am still suffering with warm start issues. I also install the new gear bushing which has transformed the shifting.
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11739 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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I mentioned previously about inspecting the rheostat (the wire winding inside the fuel sender) to see if the wires were burnt at about the midway point. Did you do that?
Also—assuming your ground is good—you only have one other item to check: the vibrator. If yours is the OEM metal-encased kind, it’s probably old and worn out. Purchase one of the new vibrators, which are encased in black plastic. The new ones don’t vibrate. They have a zenor diode and a light bulb inside them. Its primary purpose is to prevent a full 12 volts from entering your gage and/or sender rheostat.
Have you checked to see that your choke is adjusted so that it is fully off when the engine is hot? And, you might try getting the engine to operating temperature and pulling the air cleaner off, right after shutting off the engine. Look down the throat of the carb. Is there any fuel dripping drop the dump tube? There shouldn’t be.
At your YouTube site, a commentor mentioned that this is how bugs are. Wrong. Your engine should start immediately, regardless of its temperature. Mine does.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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plagos_g Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2015 Posts: 82 Location: Santiago, Chile
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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I agree with Tim. Even my crew cab starts right away despite having the engine in terrible condition (compression leaks, cylinder 2 doesn't work as it suffered from severe overheat).
It is a matter of checking every subsystem carefully.
I have had this truck 'repaired' by many mechanics in the past. Most said "It's the way it is", those were the ones that only made matters worse.
About the gauge, maybe the sender is flooding itself (just one part works)? Since it goes full when ground is applied, and zero when in the air.
Warm start issues could be due to soaking the plugs (too much pumping) too. _________________ 1998 Volkswagen Sedan (MexiBeetle, daily drive)
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Home Built by Jeff Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2018 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Tim Donahoe wrote: |
I mentioned previously about inspecting the rheostat (the wire winding inside the fuel sender) to see if the wires were burnt at about the midway point. Did you do that?
Also—assuming your ground is good—you only have one other item to check: the vibrator. If yours is the OEM metal-encased kind, it’s probably old and worn out. Purchase one of the new vibrators, which are encased in black plastic. The new ones don’t vibrate. They have a zenor diode and a light bulb inside them. Its primary purpose is to prevent a full 12 volts from entering your gage and/or sender rheostat.
Have you checked to see that your choke is adjusted so that it is fully off when the engine is hot? And, you might try getting the engine to operating temperature and pulling the air cleaner off, right after shutting off the engine. Look down the throat of the carb. Is there any fuel dripping drop the dump tube? There shouldn’t be.
At your YouTube site, a commentor mentioned that this is how bugs are. Wrong. Your engine should start immediately, regardless of its temperature. Mine does.
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The rheostat looked fine from what I could see and the resistance was good for the sender. It may be the grounding wire or the quite possibly the vibrator, I will see how that goes.
I have had a heap of suggestions to check for the warm start issues, so I will look into the carb leaking, and also I need to change the condenser which is the last thing that has not been changed out.
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Home Built by Jeff Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2018 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:57 am Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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This week I keep attacking my warm start issues by stripping and cleaning up the carb, and then finish some paint correction.
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docdanracy Samba Member
Joined: June 26, 2012 Posts: 1118 Location: Auburn, CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Coming along nicely _________________ Doc
1970 Sunroof Bug Yukon Yellow (L19K)
Custom 6.5x15” 914 Sport Wheels wrapped in 185x65x15 Contis
Empi shifter, full compliment of gauges, 1679 with mild cam, stock induction
SOLD: 1974 Marina Blue Standard Beetle undergoing restoration/preservation
1679 with Kadrons and header/QP
914 sport wheels 5.5" ET40 wrapped in 195x65x15 Kumhos |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11739 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Chinese carburetor=problems.
Your volume control screw should be turned out, as you suspected in the video.
Volkzbitz=no problems.
It’s as simple as that. Tim at Volkzbitz restores genuine German Solex 34pict3 carburetors (and other Solex carbs), which were made in West Germany. Installation of the correct part—and his carburetors are—will let your engine start hot, cold, or anywhere in between.
Jeff, when I first got my bug, I had many of the carburetor problems you have mentioned. The hot start was the worst. I’d have to crank and crank to get a warmed-up engine started (no problem with a cold start). I replaced that carb with a restored Volkzbitz German carburetor four or five years ago. Since then, the engine starts immediately, regardless of the engine temperature.
You can fiddle with that piece of shit carb you have until you’re blue in the face, or you can get the original, fully restored part, and end the frustration.
Volkzbitz.com
Tim (not the same Tim at Volkzbitz, by the way.) _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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joey1320 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: Cleveland, OH
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Tim Donahoe wrote: |
Chinese carburetor=problems.
Your volume control screw should be turned out, as you suspected in the video.
Volkzbitz=no problems.
It’s as simple as that. Tim at Volkzbitz restores genuine German Solex 34pict3 carburetors (and other Solex carbs), which were made in West Germany. Installation of the correct part—and his carburetors are—will let your engine start hot, cold, or anywhere in between.
Jeff, when I first got my bug, I had many of the carburetor problems you have mentioned. The hot start was the worst. I’d have to crank and crank to get a warmed-up engine started (no problem with a cold start). I replaced that carb with a restored Volkzbitz German carburetor four or five years ago. Since then, the engine starts immediately, regardless of the engine temperature.
You can fiddle with that piece of shit carb you have until you’re blue in the face, or you can get the original, fully restored part, and end the frustration.
Volkzbitz.com
Tim (not the same Tim at Volkzbitz, by the way.) |
^this x100
If you can't afford to get a fully restored carb from Volkzbitz, then consider picking up a used oem/German one for cheap and getting a gasket/rebuild kit for it. It will definitely be better than a brand new Chinese one. _________________ **1971 Super Project
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Dark Earth Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2015 Posts: 1054
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Did you adjust the fast idle cam screw so it just touches the lowest cam setting then turned in 1/4 turn ? That screw is only used to set the initial throttle butterfly opening, not for adjusting idle speed. If it's cracked too far open at idle, adjustments to the idle mixture and idle speed will inaccurate. _________________ My Build: '69 Baja - Dark Earth Version
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Home Built by Jeff Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2018 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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If I have done everything else and it is still giving me problems, then I will replace the carb. That is my last resort though, I still need to change the condenser as well.
At the moment it seems to be working fine, but time will tell. Oh and I did adjust the idle stepper screw as directed.
One thing that was mentioned, is that I adjusted the mixture control screw without the air filter, and that is something to go back and check again. |
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Home Built by Jeff Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2018 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:24 am Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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This is the series final of project John Lemon, and this week I replace the shocks and lower the rear of the Beetle.
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Home Built by Jeff Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2018 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:37 am Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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This is just a quick video trying some of the suggested tests for my warm start issues. At this stage it is still not fixed.
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docdanracy Samba Member
Joined: June 26, 2012 Posts: 1118 Location: Auburn, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:27 am Post subject: Re: Home Built Project Beetle (Full video build) |
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Have you checked float level? _________________ Doc
1970 Sunroof Bug Yukon Yellow (L19K)
Custom 6.5x15” 914 Sport Wheels wrapped in 185x65x15 Contis
Empi shifter, full compliment of gauges, 1679 with mild cam, stock induction
SOLD: 1974 Marina Blue Standard Beetle undergoing restoration/preservation
1679 with Kadrons and header/QP
914 sport wheels 5.5" ET40 wrapped in 195x65x15 Kumhos |
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