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86VaNa60N Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2014 Posts: 77 Location: Ventura
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:11 pm Post subject: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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Hi Samba Family,
I was cleaning the grounding wires in the engine bay under the coil. During this process, I inadvertently broke this electrical connector off the side of the distributor It just crumbled when I touched it and pulled on the connector. Looks like theres 4 wires that go into the distributor from this thing. Although both plastic ends of the electrical holders are broken, the wires and still linked thank God, so I can drive it for now.
My question is: What is this thing? Is it easily replaceable - can I do it?
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your comments.
Sincerely,
Noah
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oceanair Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2013 Posts: 720 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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If you're an 86-91 -- the Hall Unit
http://www.gowesty.com/product/electrical/24417/hall-sensor-assembly-kit-for-distributor _________________ 84 Vanagon Pop Top Conversion from Tin Top, 1970 Ghia - all sweet rides! Love em!
Previous: Green 72 Tin Top, White 72 Westy, Blue 64 Beetle, Yellow 71 Squareback, 2014 Jetta TDI Wagon - wish I could have them all back! |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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Best to buy a new replacement at this point in time, they are not horribly expensive and definitely better on the wallet and soul than having to deal with a breakdown and tow. |
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86VaNa60N Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2014 Posts: 77 Location: Ventura
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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The Hall Unit - Thanks for posting the link to GoWesty. $144 bucks isn't too bad. It surely is cheaper than a tow and a motel while on the road.
Thanks guys, I'll order that ASAP. |
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86VaNa60N Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2014 Posts: 77 Location: Ventura
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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Looking at the GoWesty website, it looks like I could get an entire new distributor that comes with Hall sensor and all for $69. Are these aftermarket distributors considered a far cry from restoring my OEM distributor? |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:29 am Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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86VaNa60N wrote: |
Looking at the GoWesty website, it looks like I could get an entire new distributor that comes with Hall sensor and all for $69. Are these aftermarket distributors considered a far cry from restoring my OEM distributor? |
Not just a far cry, a sob fest.
Seriously, I don’t know the aftermarket Vanagon parts at all, but if it’s anything like the rest of the Chinese supply chain, avoids it whenever possible _________________ .ssS! |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:59 am Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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"If it ain't broke, don't go replacing it with any old piece of Chinese crap"
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:13 am Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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See parallel thread! _________________ .ssS! |
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Tbob Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2007 Posts: 417 Location: Pensacola, Fl.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:56 am Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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All the VAG products I own made from around 1980 or so have that plug on the side of the distributor for the hall unit. I have many that are broken, either from age and mileage of from hamfisted mechanics who broke them. Oh, wait, I work on my own stuff! But about 30,000 miles ago on my 1986 with the Audi 3b engine(same plug), it was broken and I didn't have a spare. I inspected the plug and found that there are 3 brass pieces of metal across the bottom soldered to wires that go to the hall unit.Since I have safety wire and pliers, I carefully drilled a small hole through the plug above the brass plates and wires, but so that I could put safety wire through the hole and around the distributor to hold the connector firmly to the distributor, in the same place and way the crumbled plastic did. I ordered a new hall unit, thinking I would replace it when it came in. Well, that was 30,000 miles ago. The new hall unit is still on the shelf. The safety wire is holding fine, and when I converted the engine from the defunct hybrid Eurospec/Tiico/South African fuel injection to Digifant this summer, I was not tempted to replace it. YMMV, and this free advice is worth what it cost you! _________________ 1969 Deluxe, owned since 1973
1973 Westfalia, owned since 1983
1980 Westfalia, watercooled conversion
1985 Westfalia, stock!
1986 Westfakia, Audi I-4 conversion
A couple of trucks and a couple of Jeeps |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:09 am Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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it's busted and a frustrating source of miss fires and vehicle abandonment
the only acceptable reason to cob one back together is because you are already out in the bush when you discover why it's running like carp, if it's even starting at all.
replace it.. use your best sensibilities. for costs vs quality.
the 86-91 distributor doesn't have any flyweight timing internals.. it's just a hall sensor.. make sure not to manhandle that plug in the future.. _________________
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86VaNa60N Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2014 Posts: 77 Location: Ventura
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:01 am Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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Thanks you guys, I think I'll go with replacing the Hall unit and avoid aftermarket stuff. Its always an adventure. |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10078 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:48 am Post subject: Re: What is this on the side of the distributor? |
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As long as the wires aren't frayed, settle the connector base back into place and put a zip-tie around the connector and diz body just below the cap rim, that's actually a good long-term fix. I sure wouldn't waste my money on a new Hall gen or a new diz just to remedy two little underbuilt plastic tabs breaking. _________________ Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
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