What speaker fits the old VW bracket?

[dvancleve]

Just a quick follow-up, it appears that speakers marketed as 6.75", at least some of them, fit the holes in the factory dash bracket. Also, samba member radiophil (who did some work on my original Sapphire), told me 4 ohm speakers work fine with them. What hardware is correct for attaching the bracket to the back of the dash and how was the speaker attached to the bracket back in the day?

Thanks, Doug

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'62 ragtop bug w/ '71 1600 dual port

[grandpa pete]

Wolfsburg west sells the speaker bracket.part 211805205
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66 sedan delivery Type 6

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery

[Eric&Barb]

[grandpa pete]

went to the catalog and looked up speaker bracket....Who Knew
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66 sedan delivery Type 6

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery

[Eric&Barb]

What fits would depend on manufacture of the radio kit being fitted and year the VW was produced.

Here is some from the 1960s found in the Gallery thru a search for "Speaker":

The first three numerals of every VW parts number shows which VW it was originally designed for. First numeral shows if it was for type 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.. Second and third number shows model. Here is a few examples, 141 is type 1 Ghia convertible LHD, 114 Beetle deluxe export model RHD, 111 Beetle standard model LHD, 151 Beetle convertible, 261 VW Pick-up (Side panel lid right, LHD).

The fourth number designates which of the ten chapters it is included in:

1 = Engine
2 = Fuel Tank, Exhaust System, Heater Pipes (and Eberspacher gas heater)
3 = Transmission
4 = Front Axle Steering
5 = Rear Axle
6 = Road Wheels, Brakes
7 = Frame, Hand Lever System, Pedal Cluster
8 = Body
9 = Electrical
0 = Accessories
There were also part numbers that started with "ZVW" instead of the numerals that were accessories that one could order at the dealership.

The remaining numbers are the actual part number and if followed by a letter suffix it is an improved part or totally new part that might not fit with the adjoining older parts.

If you know a part is for one side only, it will end in an odd numeral for LHD driver side and even numeral if passenger.

While a lot of type 1 parts were used in the type 2 and type 3. Very little type 2 parts were used in the type 1.
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[meredith murray]

I ran into the same problem not realizing how the speakers were mounted. I have a WW repo and two Bendex ones as can be seen in the photo.

I'm guessing the bracket is for a bigger speaker as both of these are the same size as the inner mounting holes, or correct if mounted directly to the dash?

WW Speaker fitting inside bracket, not correct right?

The Bendix is just a bit too big to fit inside but not big enough for the outside mounting holes.

[SirTimTIm]

I used a 3" Bose speaker that fit nice with little modification.
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[rcooled]

[j.goodspeed]

[meredith murray]

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[daru]

Hello

I just bought a working (restored) 1961/1962 Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR Deluxe Radio Series E for my 1963 Vw Bug/Beetle. This is a Tube Radio.

The Radio in mint condition, everything is good and turn well, also have all professionally inspected and Do Test well, both in AM and FM too. Many hours of endurance testing. All elements (lighting, station keys etc.) function reliably.

I am thinking to Add modern Loudspeaker for Front and Rear at the Back of my Rear seat.

My questions:
Is the Modern speakers ( most 4 Ohm ) will damage my Radio? I just found information that tells that ( https://www.vintageblau.com/installation-.html ). It says: " Speakers should be 8 ohm through the late 1970's. Using 4 ohm speakers will damage the radio over time. Speaker wattage should be kept relatively low and factory specs are always best."

What exactly factory VW Loudspeakers 'Technical Spec Information' should be?

Has someone here have experience with that?

What do you suggest for my situation?


Appreciate for all your answers


thank's
best rgrds
daru

[Eric&Barb]

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=564692&highlight=blaupunkt+speaker
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[daru]

[65 Sunroof]

Wolfsburg West sells a 4 ohm speaker..

[daru]

[Cusser]

Couldn't one solder-in a separate 4-ohm resistor into the wire to the speaker, then with the 4-ohms of the speaker it would be 8 ohms total? Or am I forgetting something from my 1971 Physics class?
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1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297

[daru]

[Sharp64]

I had to jump into the way back machine when I used to dabble in car audio and then google it to be be sure. When you wire speakers in series it increases ohm load. When you wire in parallel it decreases ohm load. So if you have an 8ohm radio and you are using two 4 ohm speakers, simply wire them in series and you’ll get the correct load.

https://mesaboogie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/2..._site=true
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1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
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[daru]

[65 Sunroof]

Daru- I was mistaken. WW sells a 8 ohm speaker..

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=SPEAKER