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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:49 pm Post subject: Westfalia Hehr Jalousie Window Screws |
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Hey all
I am restoring my 67 S0-42 Westfalia. I would prefer to replace some of the old screws with new screws if feasible. I want to find out size and thread type of these screws so I can buy them, if you know a place where I can get a kit that would be great too. I have posted the pictures of the part and the screws to make it easy for you
Part category: Jalousie windows
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1. Screws that attaches the lightweight aluminum frame to the body. There are four of them. See the picture.
2. Screws that attaches Jalousie window to the body. There are 20 small screws. See the picture.
3. 8 Screws that attaches the Window form inside body frame. See the picture
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far rider Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2005 Posts: 771 Location: Rutland, VT
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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These guys have stainless steel packages. They might have something.
Also you might try taking your screws to Your local hardware to get matched up.
Http://vwparts.aircooled.net/default.asp
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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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Category: Curtain Rod
4. Screws that attaches curtain rods to the body. These are flat head small screws .
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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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far rider wrote: |
These guys have stainless steel packages. They might have something.
Also you might try taking your screws to Your local hardware to get matched up.
Http://vwparts.aircooled.net/default.asp
Look under "Hardware, Cables Hoses Grommets" |
Thanks, I tried them but they don't have the small screws. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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Have you tried going to McFadden Dale Industrial Hardware?
www.mcfaddendalehardware.com/ _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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No I have not. I go to the one in OC and see if they have them. |
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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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I was hoping somebody has put together a kit that has all the screws |
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Navydave73 Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2017 Posts: 414 Location: Alta Loma/Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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Wolfsburg West has all the Bitch’in seals for rebuilding your windows, i did mine one at a time. For the screws, i bought a bunch at my local Ace Hardware or Tru Value. I went with Stainless Steel.
Try McMaster Carr online, fasteners.
Good luck |
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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It's not easy to get the same profile, they don't the look bad just soak them in Ospho for a bit. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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Navydave73 wrote: |
Wolfsburg West has all the Bitch’in seals for rebuilding your windows, i did mine one at a time. For the screws, i bought a bunch at my local Ace Hardware or Tru Value. I went with Stainless Steel.
Try McMaster Carr online, fasteners.
Good luck |
Yep - thanks , I already ordered them . It is hard to order online without knowing the profile. When I did my 71 windows I took the screws to Ace, Home Deport etc, but I was not able to find a match. You know how the hardware stores have a screw guide panel where you can try to fit the screws to find a matching profile? It didn't work for me. |
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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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Does someone sell refurbished screws here, may be I should post WTB ad. |
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zozo Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2005 Posts: 5217 Location: South of Ol' San Antonio
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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If it were me, I'd try the home method of electrolysis for a couple days, then clean them up with a brush and steel wool the heads. As someone mentioned, they don't look bad at all to start with, so a little clean up should do the trick. My $0.02. |
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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Local hardware store stock might not be the right size, probably won't be.
I advocate for metric... and for zinc plated steel... the zinc is supposed to be what's sacrificed.
If you go stainless... your bus' body will become what's sacrificed, due to the difference in electrical potential between steel/stainless steel.... galvanic corrosion.
Here's after a little time of installing a stainless bolt upgrade kit... money well spent?... no
But wait... that ^^ was stainless steel + steel... what about stainless & aluminum?
Here's stainless screw in aluminum:
Ideally, stay in the "A" or "AD" box:
chamilka wrote: |
I want to find out size and thread type of these screws so I can buy them.
Part category: Jalousie windows
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1. (4) attaching the tan lightweight inner trim to the body.
2. (20) attaching outer frame to the body.
3. (eight) attaching the tan inner window frame. |
Accurately measure length/width for each type of screw. Don't worry about measuring the thread pitch.
Click blue text / links, below
1. DIN 7971C
2. DIN 7981C
3. These may be 7971C, but might have to look for a certain manufacturer.
Google "DIN 7971" (not 7971C) & check out the "images" view.
These have a slightly taller / squarer sided head, like a cheesehead.
Category: Curtain Rod
4. Screws that attaches curtain rods to the body. Same DIN as #1, check size.
These look pretty darn choice... I'd keep using them.
If you put together a correct looking metric zinc kit... I'd buy. _________________ aka: Evan
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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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Easy e - Thank you for the information. I did not know about the fact that stainless steel can impact the corrosion properties of the base metal. Very insightful.
Regarding the Threads Per Inch (Pitch) and diameter:
I think the diameter of the shaft is important otherwise you have to modify the holes etc.
since these are screws not bolts, I can see Pitch might not being an issue. |
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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chamilka wrote: |
I think the diameter of the shaft is important otherwise you have to modify the holes etc. |
Good point. Attaining screw snug fit in the aluminum is desired. Going to a larger US size would do it... or, better yet... slightly smash / deform each hole in the aluminum (where the screw goes though)... & it'll provide some more good snug-ness at reassembly time. I think I remember BarryL recommending that. _________________ aka: Evan
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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Got Screws!! |
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zozo wrote: |
If it were me, I'd try the home method of electrolysis for a couple days, then clean them up with a brush and steel wool the heads. As someone mentioned, they don't look bad at all to start with, so a little clean up should do the trick. My $0.02. |
Thanks for the reply.
the pictures show few examples of the screws I took out. I have 5 windows, that is 190 screws (38 for each window), at least 20 of them are in bad shape, I don't want to reinstall those.
Option -1: Find replacement Original used screws for the missing once and clean them as some of you suggested or
Option -2: Buy new complete set that match the profile closely.
I do not wish to miss match old and new, that does not look good. |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14266 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia Hehr Jalousie Window Screws |
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Someone would gladly buy the OG ones so don't toss them. |
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chamilka Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2006 Posts: 197 Location: San Deigo
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia Hehr Jalousie Window Screws |
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BarryL wrote: |
Someone would gladly buy the OG ones so don't toss them. |
no worries , I will need them if I go with option 1 |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22460 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Westfalia Hehr Jalousie Window Screws |
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I find most screws I need at Home Depot. They have a wide selection of standard, metric, stainless, zink & others. Just bring in a couple examples and start comparing. _________________
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OK, this thread is over. You win. |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14266 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia Hehr Jalousie Window Screws |
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chamilka wrote: |
BarryL wrote: |
Someone would gladly buy the OG ones so don't toss them. |
no worries , I will need them if I go with option 1 |
United Fastener should have what you need or be able to get it if you go with Option - 2. http://www.unitedfastenersandiego.com/About-Us |
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