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Keithinky Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:54 am Post subject: Anyone know what part this is? |
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Not sure this the correct group.
I wanted to see if anyone knows what this is. I got it with a bucket of VW odds and ends. I didn’t know what it is. A/C adapter?
Thanks.
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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A/C pulley. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Multi69s Samba Member
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hitest Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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Search: supercharger _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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Dwayne1m Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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Multi69s wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
A/C pulley. |
That was my first thought as well. However, most AC units on VWs run of the crankshaft, and there is a considerable difference in diameter between the fan / gen pulley and the AC pulley as shown below.
It may be an AC pulley, but I have never seen one like that on a Type 1, 3, and 4 engine before. |
That looks like a nightmare to work on. Appears you have to remove the A/C compressor if you want to do anything. I'd be curious to drive a Bug with A/C. I've driven some 4 cylinders where you couldn't have the A/C on when pulling up a hill or away from a dead stop. One was a Toyota Tercel. I called it "White Lightning". It had to be one of the slowest cars on the planet. Nobody wanted to be behind me going up a hill. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31268 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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Dwayne1m wrote: |
That looks like a nightmare to work on. Appears you have to remove the A/C compressor if you want to do anything. I'd be curious to drive a Bug with A/C. I've driven some 4 cylinders where you couldn't have the A/C on when pulling up a hill or away from a dead stop. One was a Toyota Tercel. I called it "White Lightning". It had to be one of the slowest cars on the planet. Nobody wanted to be behind me going up a hill. |
My 1970 had the dealer-added AC, and tough to get to #3 and #4 lugs, worse then with leaded gas fouling them up. I cut out some metal and made an access panel to access those under the fender. Yes, that 1600cc S engine was a little sluggish using the AC, tons better once I built and installed 1835cc DP engine.
To R&R the engine, or to change the generator, had to unbolt the AC compressor and move it to the side. I eventually bought 2-piece AC compressor mounts for a 1973, that was better and easier. I also made an accessory pulley so I didn't need to use special-size VW dealer AC belts. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Multi69s Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 5360 Location: Lefty, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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Dwayne1m wrote: |
That looks like a nightmare to work on. Appears you have to remove the A/C compressor if you want to do anything. I'd be curious to drive a Bug with A/C. I've driven some 4 cylinders where you couldn't have the A/C on when pulling up a hill or away from a dead stop. One was a Toyota Tercel. I called it "White Lightning". It had to be one of the slowest cars on the planet. Nobody wanted to be behind me going up a hill. |
When they first put AC on VWs, which was a VW certified dealer add on they used the York Piston style compressor.
These WERE a nightmare to work on the engine (I have), plus they pulled so much power from the engine, that many of the engine had a short life span. However the new rotary style compressors like a Sanden does not put nearly the load on the engine. I have one on my 2L Squareback, and I don't see much notable difference, on or off when I am climbing a grade. Don't know about a stock 1600 though. _________________ 69 road Bug 2110
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AC in Squareback https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight= |
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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I think you have 2 different ones there, the cupped one looks like type 1, the other could be type 3. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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Multi69s wrote: |
When they first put AC on VWs, which was a VW certified dealer add on they used the York Piston style compressor.
These WERE a nightmare to work on the engine (I have), plus they pulled so much power from the engine, that many of the engine had a short life span. |
My 1970 had a Tecumseh compressor on it. That dealer-added unit was DPD from Texas. All I have left on it is the underdash evaporator box; I removed the clogged evaporator core, so that's basically a fan these days. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Keithinky Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2014 Posts: 435 Location: Bradenton, FL
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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I’ve looked at AC pictures and still can’t figure out how these two work. I’ll keep searching. Thanks |
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Starbucket Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2007 Posts: 4006 Location: WA
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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I don't think it's a VW part at all, no keyway on either part. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51057 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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Keithinky wrote: |
I’ve looked at AC pictures and still can’t figure out how these two work. I’ll keep searching. Thanks |
They bolt on over the OG pulley, usually using a longer bolt. The type 1 version often had tabs that engaged the puller slots in a standard crank pulley but I think some just relied on the bolt being torqued well, not sure on the type 3 one.
There's not alot in the archives for beetle, but read the installation instructions and see if you recognize it.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/air_conditioning_parts_list.php _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Keithinky Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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Thank you I will. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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Keep in mind there were at least 3 different "official VWOA" A/C suppliers and all their stuff was different, those instructions may not apply to the parts you have. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Multi69s Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what part this is? |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Keep in mind there were at least 3 different "official VWOA" A/C suppliers and all their stuff was different, those instructions may not apply to the parts you have. |
That is very true. I know that its not for a type 4 engine, because I installed AC in my Type 4 powered Squareback. I also have the AC installation manuals for 1967 and 1970 Type 3s. Each of them show a different AC pulley. However, the one that you are holding in your hand, "looks" like the one in the 1967 Type 3 manual. I also have the later style Type 3 AC pulley in one of my sheds. When I get a chance, Ill see if it is like the one that has "pegs" on it. _________________ 69 road Bug 2110
73 Squareback - 2L, T4, Automatic W/ AC
Gone, but many fond memories 69 Baja Bug 2010 - 5 Rib Bus Transaxle
Gone but not forgotten 72 Baja Bug 2010
My builds
T4 into Squareback http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=458944&highlight=
Auto Trans Rebuild http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=516066&highlight=
AC in Squareback https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight= |
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Multi69s Samba Member
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