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Alan B Condy Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2018 Posts: 10 Location: Cheltenham
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:19 am Post subject: Flickering charge light |
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Hi, I'm new to this forum so please excuse any transgressions. I have a 1975 Type 2 1800 bus with solex carb/s.
I have an odd condition regarding charge warning light, even with ignition turned off or with wiring plug pulled off the charge warning light flickers on and off. I have a split charge relay fitted and this will chatter in time with the ignition light, I've disconnected the supply to the relay but the light still flickers. I'm getting a voltage at the relay of up to 1.5 volts although voltage is erratic. Any directions of investigation would be useful. Many thanks, Alan |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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I'd double check your wiring to the charge relay first. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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telford dorr Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2009 Posts: 3555 Location: San Diego (Encinitas)
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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Post a pic of this "charge relay" so we can see what you're talking about. _________________ '71 panel, now with FI
'Experience' is the ability to recognize a mistake when you're making it again - Franklin P. Jones
In theory, theory works in practice; in practice, it doesn't - William T. Harbaugh
When you're dead, you don't know you're dead. The pain is only felt by others.
Same thing happens when you're stupid. - Philippe Geluck
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Alan B Condy Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2018 Posts: 10 Location: Cheltenham
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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Hi, thanks for your responses, I've uploaded diagram of split charge circuit, it simple splits charge between main battery and auxiliary. The switched live is taken from the charge warning light circuit and operates when positive level of charge is reached and light goes out. This is a Hella kit and was purchased from Just Kampers. Thanks, Alan |
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busman78 Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 4524 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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What is the amp rating for that relay? Yes I see it is fused but that looks to be a rather small relay for charging a battery, most dual charging systems use a high amp latching relay.
For a quickie check the 85 ground wire connection, verify it is making a good contact. |
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Alan B Condy Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2018 Posts: 10 Location: Cheltenham
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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Hi it's 15amp rating, although I've never fitted an auxiliary battery to put it under any load. Alan. |
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busman78 Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 4524 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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But you are powering the relay? Since it is not being used try disconnecting the 86 terminal as a quick test. |
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Alan B Condy Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2018 Posts: 10 Location: Cheltenham
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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Hi thanks for quick response. I have disconnected feed at terminal but charge light still flickers. Think I'll try running a new cable from voltage regulator to charge light, I think it must be picking up a small feed from somewhere. Alan. |
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mark d Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2013 Posts: 219 Location: Costa Rica
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:14 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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that's the cheapo dual battery relay that bus depot sells. the reason i know is that i have it. works fine but likes to blow that 15 amp fuse.....good luck _________________ 1972ish westfalia
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Alan B Condy Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2018 Posts: 10 Location: Cheltenham
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:02 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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Thanks Mark, I'll keep an eye on that. Alan |
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Alan B Condy Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2018 Posts: 10 Location: Cheltenham
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:55 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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Think I may be closer to the answer but I bit more advice would be welcome. I replaced supply cable from voltage regulator to ignition warning light but it made no difference I then checked output D+ on voltage regulator to find there is an output of 9.09 volts. I fitted a new/ rebuilt Hella alternator about three months ago but now suspect there may be a fault with it? Any other suggestions please. I have replaced the current ( no pun intendeed ) with a new one with the same result. Alan. |
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Alan B Condy Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2018 Posts: 10 Location: Cheltenham
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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Just replaced alternator with one I had repaired when I purchased my latest one, no more flickering light, no more chattering relay. Seems even the Hella rebuilds are'nt perfect, luckily still under warranty so can get it replaced. Thanks to all who responded. Until the next time, Alan. |
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Hikelite Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2012 Posts: 557 Location: Colville, WA
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Flickering charge light |
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Alan B Condy wrote: |
Just replaced alternator with one I had repaired when I purchased my latest one, no more flickering light, no more chattering relay. Seems even the Hella rebuilds are'nt perfect, luckily still under warranty so can get it replaced. Thanks to all who responded. Until the next time, Alan. |
Ccongrats on figuring out the issue.
Hopefully someone else with the same symptoms will find this in the future. _________________ ~Kevin
My 1968 Campmobile |
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