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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:01 am Post subject: Too TALL battery |
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I just got a *new* battery, and found out it is about 15mm (3/4") too TALL. The engine cover 'almost' closes, but not quite.
Is there any way I can make this work? What about cutting off the inside padding on the engine lid where the battery terminals are protruding too high? I could glue a piece of thin rubber to the under side of the lid to prevent the battery from shorting thru the metal lid.
...Or I guess I don't need to have the lid completely closed (but then that would mean more noise....... (??) _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16474 Location: Brookeville, MD
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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Yeah - you are right.... no point in wasting time on this Too bad _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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calo1956 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2011 Posts: 683 Location: long Island new york
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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Sounds like you need another new battery to me! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but why would you modify your van for the wrong battery? Just saying... _________________ Enjoy the ride....
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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calo1956 wrote: |
Sounds like you need another new battery to me! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but why would you modify your van for the wrong battery? Just saying... |
I know... silly question... _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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The battery is an 8" tall better (not including terminals)... does a Vanagon useually take a 7" battery?
This battery is actually on 1/2 too tall... the highest point on the engine is only 1/2 lower than this battery. _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17014 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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Not cheap, but my battery charger is set for the AGM battery I use for camping. Because it will charge up to 3 batteries at one time, I opted for an AGM battery for a starting battery. This one fits really well in the diesel tray in the engine bay.
It probably lists the dimensions in the description if that helps.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008FY5UF8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 _________________ ☮️ |
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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djkeev wrote: |
What is the model / group size of the battery you have?
What was on the old one?
Dave |
Old one was not stock
New one is GROUP 24F _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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Does anyone know the correct GROUP SIZE for T3 early diesels?
Is the GROUP SIZE different for WBX engines? _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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djkeev wrote: |
Shouldn't your diesel take a group 41??
24F
Length: 10.75 in
Width: 6.75 in
Height: 9 in
41
Length: 11.5625 in
Width: 6.875 in
Height: 6.875 in |
This is the first time in my life I've heard about "group" sizes. But yes a 41 would fit. _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9895 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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Yes, the Group 41 fits the diesels. I think 40R is a close alternative found in some stores around me as 41 seems to be slowly fading away.
Mark |
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markswagen Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2018 Posts: 956 Location: san diego
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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if you have an interstate store near you, they have the group 41, if they don't have one, they will get one, that's where i buy batteries for my customers. _________________ markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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crazyvwvanman wrote: |
Yes, the Group 41 fits the diesels. I think 40R is a close alternative found in some stores around me as 41 seems to be slowly fading away.
Mark |
OK... taking this battery back...
Here is a 40R $50CAD
>>> they say it was used in a car for 2 years. Hopefully not abused.
https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/pts/d/car-battery/6726031547.html _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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djkeev wrote: |
Unknown used battery........ not how I would roll but best of luck to you!
Dave |
Yeah I know - - - - possible it might be junk.
In fact I will probably PASS on this battery because I don't have a great feeling about the seller. I think when buying an unknown used battery, the only thing you have to go on is your 'feeling' about the integrity of the seller.
For example when czrzyvanman came to visit us 2 years ago he left with me a BOSCH battery which looked brand new - but Mark said it was fried due to using it to power his fridge. Couldn't hold a charge well anymore - but it looks GREAT.
PS--- hmmmm - maybe I should sell it to some Czech sucker _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16474 Location: Brookeville, MD
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Too TALL battery |
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dobryan wrote: |
Ed, Please buy a new battery from a known vendor with a warranty. You'll be glad you did. |
...but by now you KNOW how CHEAP I am _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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