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Hyatt181 Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 128
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:30 am Post subject: Steering Box Clamp |
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Greetings everyone.
I know I have seen this before but I can’t find the answer.
Steering box clamp has two positions.
Which one does a Thing use.
Picture from the service manual as to what I’m referring too.
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mondshine Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2006 Posts: 2769 Location: The World's Motor Capital
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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It seems to me (and it's been a while since I've been under there) but my 181 beam has two locating pins for that clamp, and both "notches" are engaged whichever way that clamp is oriented.
If your car has a Beetle beam, go with the Type 1 location. After all, Things are Type 1's. |
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iltis74 Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2003 Posts: 826 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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Well darn that's new to me, and mine was off about 20 years ago. Are they all like this? I wonder if I got it right by accident. What happens if it's installed wrong? _________________ 65 Beetle
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Hyatt181 Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 128
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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So here is what I have learned.
The actual thing clamp is marked 13 &14
Thing should have the number 13 on the notch.
Mine was mounted wrong for about 20 years since the last time I took it off.
This did not seem to cause any issues.
But since installing it correctly I found it was easier to get to the adjustment screw and holes for where the grease should go.
Consequently I removed one shaft to replace the seal at the bottom of the box due to it leaking.
Then repacked it with John Deere Corn head grease.
Then drilled the holes for grease out and tapped for 10mmx 1 thread for grease fittings so I can add more grease later.
To keep the seals from blowing out I will remove the upper zest fitting and fill until grease comes out there.
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el_safari Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2005 Posts: 375 Location: Nouvelle Aquitaine,France
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50338
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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Speaking from ignorance here, but I suspect the clamp will fit both pins even when fitted wrong.
Last edited by Wildthings on Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:12 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Ron Domeck Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1466 Location: louisville Ky
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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If you use the 14 the box will be more laid down. That is for the Ghia that you sit lower. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:41 am Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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When installed incorrectly, this puts a horrible angle on the rag joint/steering coupler which will lead to premature failure of the coupler. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
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Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Tim MacDonald Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 1346 Location: Edmonton alberta
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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So just to clarify the 13 should be toward the drivers side correct? _________________ 61 so34 flip seat
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Dougster43 Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2018 Posts: 183 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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Need some help on this one. I have a steering box clamp that does not have the 13/14 markings on it. Since I wasn't sure it was correct, I purchased a replacement from Thingparts which just arrived today, and it also does not have markings on it. Am I missing something?
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2021 Posts: 10 Location: TX
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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My clamp which holds steering box to beam has an arrow stamped on it, should it be facing up or down? Searched Samba and other sites but could not locate answers other than ones which show clamp with up and down arrows and 13 or 14 stamped next to each of them...
Mine only has ONE arrow and no numbers... Should arrow point up or down?
I circled arrow in blue, hard to see the arrow, it is pointing down in the photo.
This is for a 1974 Thing |
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Hyatt181 Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 128
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Box Clamp |
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This is what I believe to be the correct orientation of the stock clamp.
If you don’t have numbers on it then I would try it both ways and see which way lines the steering shaft to the steering box the best. It is subtle change in the angle from one way to the other. I personally had mine the wrong way for 20 years and didn’t have any issues.
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