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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:30 pm    Post subject: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

While building my engine I ruined my straight cut timing gear that goes on the crankshaft. I was wondering if I could just buy that one or do I need to buy the set?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

Call your vendor that you purchased the gear set from.
These gear sets are not matched, so it's just a matter of your vendor taking pity on you.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

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Call your vendor that you purchased the gear set from.
These gear sets are not matched, so it's just a matter of your vendor taking pity on you.


I bought it online about 5 months ago...

They allowed me to do a warranty claim
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

So how did you manage to mangle the gear in the first place?

How big was the sledgehammer you used? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

I bet he cracked it ,,,,like i did once,,, Embarassed Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

nsracing wrote:
So how did you manage to mangle the gear in the first place?

How big was the sledgehammer you used? Very Happy


Didn't get to the sledge...

I have built engines in the past, and always said I'll never make this mistake...

i forgot to install the bearing that goes on before the gear. When I went to pull it off with my puller it came off cock eyed and marred up the inner portion of the gear badly, but surprisingly no damage to the crank (which is awesome, it's a new 76mm counterweight $$$$$)... when I get off work I'll send some pics. I was able to swap it out just have to wait until the new one comes to finish the crank
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

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I bet he cracked it ,,,,like i did once,,, Embarassed Rolling Eyes Laughing


No cracks...but thought I had
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

You get that type of damage from putting it in crooked, not removal. If it went on clean, you will not end up w/ a burr like that.

An easier way to put on a gear is to heat the item. I just use a torch - hold the item with a pair of pliers and just flame the outside few minutes. Just warm it up. NOT BLUE! Then just flop the gear on the nose. It drops down on its own weight. If not, just tap with a drift and it goes on.

For pulling, I use a hydraulic puller. I damaged an old Berg puller so I just use the plate w/ the hydraulic puller. It is clean, strong and pulls it nicely.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

many people justuse a 60-100watt lightbulb, put the gear on it for 5-10 min then it slips on. or a old hot plate.or use the coffie maker to heat it. do beat it on ,dont use a press. it's eazy to effup the spindly crankeshaftem thingy too.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

Won't a torch be way cheaper and quicker? And you don't even have to risk being electrocuted. Laughing

Tucker is fancy for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:09 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

Welcome to the club. As you get older this sort of situation is called "experience". I have a lot of "experience".
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

[email protected] wrote:
Welcome to the club. As you get older this sort of situation is called "experience". I have a lot of "experience".


I appreciate that...

I beat myself up pretty bad about what I did. Thank you for the encouragement
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

I could see somebody with a torch getting the gear red hot....and then a effed up engine.I have also used heat gun.( witch is my way of doing it.I aint in no hurry like nick. and I may just need my hair dried too. beware when heating the gear or any thing at all it may be hot.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

It is not gonna get hurt if you over-cook it. It is not a hardened part at all.

A minute/s or so with a torch is plenty. A torch is very nice to warm things up in winter. I use it to warm the pistons when I assembling the pin into it in winter builds. Very Happy

I also torch parts a little to dry them up quickly in winter after a wash, if I don't have time to wait around waiting all day to dry up. Works really good...on rocker/valvetrain parts and things.

try it man. Just don't burn down your house.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

i just wrapped my crank in a towel and let it chill in the fridge w/ the soda's & beer for about 30. then i warmed the gears (w/ dinner) in the oven for about 15... dropped right in w/ ease
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

I use a cheap little toaster oven to warm up the gear and some leather gloves. Doesn't take all that much heat and it will drop on easy.

Never thought to use it for pistons. Huh.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

Torch is awesome on pistons in winter. Just get them warm above 70 deg and the pins slide in easy.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

Toaster ovens are 20$ at wallmart.
you have no excuse for now getting one. it's cheaper than a torch. A good torch and MAP gas bottle your looking at 50$ min
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead Reply with quote

Can a toaster oven do copper pipes? Very Happy

Or, or thaw out something in the middle of a field?

It is hard to beat a propane torch - one of the best all around tools.
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