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roadkingdoc Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:44 pm Post subject: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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I am using a pressure bleeder on a dry newly assembled brake system. when applying pressure to the system via the master cylinder cap hook up I am very slowly losing pressure. I apparently have a leak some where behind the drums. as all the outer line fitting are not leaking. I am guessing the slave cylinders or lines are not air tight. after I pull a drum how do I stabilize the shoes so I can pressure test the cylinders and lines? thanks |
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3442 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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You can adjust the shoes so they are as tight as you can get them, prior to bleeding. That will help take up slack initially |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51144 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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To pressurize the system with the drum off you'll have to remove the shoes and put a C clamp on the pistons to keep them in the cylinder. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14266 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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roadkingdoc wrote: |
I apparently have a leak some where behind the drums. |
And you don't see fluid making a mess somewhere? |
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mr white Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 1193 Location: beautiful Oregon & Mohave County, AZ
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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Busdaddy is correct. Tighten those sucked down good. |
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roadkingdoc Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 911
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:52 am Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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thanks for the help guys. there is no fluid mess because there is no fluid, yet. the system is dry. |
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sgellis Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2016 Posts: 2014 Location: SW Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:33 am Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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roadkingdoc wrote: |
I am using a pressure bleeder on a dry newly assembled brake system. when applying pressure to the system via the master cylinder cap hook up I am very slowly losing pressure. I apparently have a leak some where behind the drums. as all the outer line fitting are not leaking. I am guessing the slave cylinders or lines are not air tight. after I pull a drum how do I stabilize the shoes so I can pressure test the cylinders and lines? thanks |
Possible your pressure bleeder or its connection is leaking. Adding fluid will find the leak in your brakes if there is one. _________________ My 64 Kombi restoration
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roadkingdoc Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 911
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:40 am Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual mc (update!) |
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found the problem! about a 6mm crack in side of mc reservoir. can I repair this with an epoxy of some kind? what is the reservoir made of? thanks |
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pyrOman Fire Master
Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 12408 Location: Over 2002 posts deleted!
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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I’d just get a new one. _________________ Some people are so busy being clever they don't have time enough to be wise. |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:28 am Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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In a pinch you could likely weld it with soldering iron type heat and filler rod of the correct material. Pretty standard procedure in body shops these days. Are you using a 1967 type reservoir? Repops are pretty easily available. _________________ Al Brase
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roadkingdoc Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 911
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:12 am Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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thanks again, i repaired with epoxy. its holding now |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:22 am Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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Curious, did you talk about the conversion to dual circuit elsewhere? If not, what parts did you use? This is one upgrade that is quite worthwhile. I probably will do it to my 56.
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Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24757 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:43 am Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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busdaddy wrote: |
To pressurize the system with the drum off you'll have to remove the shoes and put a C clamp on the pistons to keep them in the cylinder. |
Ratchet strap should work well, and not require removal of the shoes. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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roadkingdoc Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: pressure bleeder leak down 60 single cab dual master cylinder |
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there is a good sticky on the subject |
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