Sidewinder Exhaust Fit

[tpinthepack]

Yes, I searched and I don't see the specific answers I am after. I want a basic exhaust for a 65 bus with Type 1 engine. I don't want to cut the rear apron, and I like the way the side winder hide away looks. That said, I see them listed on a dozen sites and they say Fit Bus 68 and later, or Ghia/Bug but I don't see one that claims Split bus fit. At Bulli Brigade this weekend I saw a dozen of them installed. So, who knows what one I should buy that will just bolt on and work?
I don't like the Stainless fat ones by the Taiwan company, I like the sidewinder look hiding away.
Thanks
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[easy e]

I had to cut an about 2-3" tall piece out of the very bottom edge of my apron to get it to fit... at the lower part of the exhaust's U-bend.

I'm going with the Vintage Speed on a different engine.

Cut not shown in pic below.. but you can see where the contact point is (over on the left side) and imagine.

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[flemcadiddlehopper]

I've heard that the sidewinders scrape a ton on lowered busses and the drone of them resonates through the bus like mad.

gordo.
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[tpinthepack]

Thanks, this is what I was thinking about.
Tony
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1968 Manx N.O.S. w/ Barrett Chassis
1960 Single Cab 1914 w/ 40 DLRA's
1990 Vanagon DOKA
1972 Super Beetle
1979 Super Beetle Convertible
2011 Porsche Cayenne

[azbob]

I have one of these. The left side does touch the apron. I'm not too stoked on that. I think I'll end up with a hole in the exhaust at some point in the future.

Scraping though, haven't had to much problems with that as long as I drive like, you know, like I'm driving a lowered bus.

As for the noise, I have been sound proofing the bus and it is still pretty loud. But I am not completely done yet so that may change. Outside the bus it sounds great. Just the inside is droney like a Sleep concert. With no interior panels or dynamat, hearing your passengers wasn't always easy.
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[RUSS914]

I also have a A1 (Tiger Performance) stainless system on my 59 truck. I like the fit but I dont like the drone of the muffler. For some reason every non-stock system seems to be loud and have a deep drone...grrrr...whay can't there just be a muffler that performs okay and have little noise.

I have had no issues with installation or scraping on the ground.

Anyway, Tiger at Tiger Performance is easy to deal with. [email protected]

Russell

[western auto]

re routing the tailpipe out the back will help eliminate the drone

[RUSS914]

Western Auto,
Whaaaaa....really? I'll try anything to help reduce the drone.

Thanks!!
Russ

[azbob]

[pyrOman]

[western auto]

[azbob]

[flemcadiddlehopper]

There was a thread about this , sort of, here.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620163&highlight=performance+exhaust

The first post shows a sidewinder with 2 mufflers, which looks like the best option, until you have to adjust your valves.


Gordo.
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[wrenchnride247]

Here's what I did with my "China sidewinder" muffler deal. No, you have to remove muffler to adjust valves, but my driveway will not let mine sit any lower.

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[mr white]

This subject is up to bat in my camp. I have a 2110 in my lowered 60 truck and was thinking about buying one. I thought about a 1 5/8 ceramic coated one. What are folks buying that seemingly lasts awhile? Also how is the tone? I don’t mind a 356 four cam tone.

[snuffelupabus]

I use a Type 1 sidewinder with a split specific muffler
No clearance issues. Perhaps my 1-1/2" system does not have issues the 1-5/8" version has. Mine is stainless with exchangers and a polished muffler.
Limited use so far but no drone, mostly accelerating or off- throttle. Sounds nice on the 2110.

[AlteWagen]

I have a 1 1/2 A1 Sidewinder with AA muffler on the bus. I had to put 1/2 spacers between the body and apron to make the tiny amount of clearance you see in the pic. It does cause the apron to pop out a bit but on my beater who cares.

To cut down the drone from the muffler I put a piece of scrap tubing with two self tapping screws directing the exhaust out the back. I temporarily extended the pipe past the muffler and the drone was even quieter. I could tell the difference as on the freeway the 'temp' tube shot off and the difference was very noticeable.

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[6sixTinBox]

I am considering a sidewinder exhaust, but I'm not 100% sold on it just on the fact that it looks like you can't get to the passenger valve cover easily to adjust the valves. Anyone have first hand knowledge on this concern? Is it a pain or not a big deal? Thanks!
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