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richard123vmt Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2017 Posts: 126 Location: california
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:03 am Post subject: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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Wipers were slow so I tried to remove driver side wiper to lube shaft, but the nut took off the shaft. I will get a replacement shaft ASAP but wonder if I can remove the driver wiper and relocate the passenger wiper to clear the windshield on the driver's side? I have some tricky driving ahead. I am planning to rain-x the glass. Can the wiper be relocated to use as I have indicated? |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12728 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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What year car are we talking about? Some kind of Volkswagen bus, I hope I'm assuming you have a '69+ bus, since you said nut on shaft… The dimensions may or may not be the same, (early bays are identical, but late bays are ambiguous on the microfiche,) but the arms will swap left to right in a weather emergency just fine.
Full tutorial on motor and shaft removal here:
http://itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=9136
Pay special attention to this paragraph on here to clean your wiper shaft splines for proper seating of new arms. This applies every time the arms come off. No exceptions:
Amskeptic wrote: |
Find the little splines on the wiper shafts and pick them clean with the edge of a razor blade. There are many splines, and you are going to do each one. This is to help you, so deal with it, Every one. The shafts have very little leverage to move the ten pounds of snow off the windshield that you were too lazy to clear off, and the splines are the only way the wipers will have a chance. |
Good luck and get there safe!
Robbie _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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there isn't rain in California until mid-to-late week. By then you can have the part and do the job once. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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SGKent wrote: |
there isn't rain in California until mid-to-late week. By then you can have the part and do the job once. |
But taking out the wiper motor is so fun! You have extra chances to short out a hot wire because you forgot to disconnect the battery, extra chances to rip the rubber wiper shaft grommets, extra chances to reassemble the wiper motor shaft one tooth (or twenty six teeth) off, and you get to redress all the shaft splines every time!
Sounds like a nice day to me.
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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I am thinking you would have to move the motor from the side to side to do what you are talking about. Not sure there is room to do this and it would certainly be quite the undertaking if it did fit. |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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Wildthings wrote: |
I am thinking you would have to move the motor from the side to side to do what you are talking about. Not sure there is room to do this and it would certainly be quite the undertaking if it did fit. |
I assumed the OP was talking about the threaded pivot shafts with the ball jont ends. They can be removed from the big black wiper support and swapped around as needed.
Robbie
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richard123vmt Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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Dont think anyone got my idea which was to make the pass side wiper cover the left. Just the same, I found that the right side nut carefully removed withg solvet this time was able to grab enough thread on the broken shaft to tighten it up fine. Then found another nut which fit the pass side. So I now have a permanent repair. Plus I already did the rain=x treatment.
No rain expected but I am talking about the mountains and not sure when I can cross them. It does look like I can get a shaft from cip1 but now no emergency at all. I would hate to take those hairpin curves with bad visibility. /Thanks for all answers. Unable to get stub out of old nut no how no way so far but small loss. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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richard123vmt wrote: |
Dont think anyone got my idea which was to make the pass side wiper cover the left. Just the same, I found that the right side nut carefully removed withg solvet this time was able to grab enough thread on the broken shaft to tighten it up fine. Then found another nut which fit the pass side. So I now have a permanent repair. Plus I already did the rain=x treatment.
No rain expected but I am talking about the mountains and not sure when I can cross them. It does look like I can get a shaft from cip1 but now no emergency at all. I would hate to take those hairpin curves with bad visibility. /Thanks for all answers. Unable to get stub out of old nut no how no way so far but small loss. |
not to bust your balls but you are more worried about losing the nut because the shaft broke off than fixing it right? I am missing something here. There is a lot of torque on that shaft when the wipers are rotating. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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richard123vmt wrote: |
Dont think anyone got my idea which was to make the pass side wiper cover the left. Just the same, I found that the right side nut carefully removed withg solvet this time was able to grab enough thread on the broken shaft to tighten it up fine. Then found another nut which fit the pass side. So I now have a permanent repair. Plus I already did the rain=x treatment.
No rain expected but I am talking about the mountains and not sure when I can cross them. It does look like I can get a shaft from cip1 but now no emergency at all. I would hate to take those hairpin curves with bad visibility. /Thanks for all answers. Unable to get stub out of old nut no how no way so far but small loss. |
Some people drill the end of the shaft out and tap it to take a bolt. You also want to use a 7mm washer between the fastener and the washer arm so that the pressure from the nut or bolt is against the washer arm and not against the shoulder of the shaft. This is not as big up a problem with Bays as Vanagons but it can still be a problem. |
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richard123vmt Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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There is lot of torque on that shaft when the wipers are rotating.
What you are missibg or more likely forgetting is that the wiper arm and thge shaft are splined. So actually there is no torque. But operating it without the nut it is sirely going to fly off pretty soon. Another thing is that the inside of the wiper arm is soft aluminum. So it may be possible to pull if down tight exposing a litttle more shaft. But not with the aluminum nut. It is great the way I have got it. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Possible to use passenger side wiper to clear drivers side? |
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richard123vmt wrote: |
There is lot of torque on that shaft when the wipers are rotating.
What you are missibg or more likely forgetting is that the wiper arm and thge shaft are splined. So actually there is no torque. But operating it without the nut it is sirely going to fly off pretty soon. Another thing is that the inside of the wiper arm is soft aluminum. So it may be possible to pull if down tight exposing a litttle more shaft. But not with the aluminum nut. It is great the way I have got it. |
Richard - not missing anything. Mine work really well. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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