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sciclunam
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 Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:11 am Post subject: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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Hi all. Has anyone fitted Fooks wheels on un-narrowed front beam with lowered spindles? Do they fit? Will there be enough space for the 4 to 5 bolt adapters?
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:22 am Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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Just as a FYI, the wheels are Fuchs.
The best way to ensure proper fitment is to get a set of rotors & drums that are drilled for the 5x130 pattern to keep from pushing the wheels out any further.
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sciclunam
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:26 am Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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| TDCTDI wrote: |
Just as a FYI, the wheels are Fuchs.
The best way to ensure proper fitment is to get a set of rotors & drums that are drilled for the 5x130 pattern to keep from pushing the wheels out any further. |
Would you suggest drilling the existing rotors and drums?
PS: Certain shops called them Fooks for some reason. I am referring to these not the original ones
https://www.vwheritage.com/ac601005bp-ssp-fooks-al...5-vw-spare |
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:06 am Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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Then those are indeed Fooks. 
Most of the drums & rotors that are drilled for the Porsche pattern use blanks that have additional material where the studs/bolts would go. The original parts are thinner in the areas where the bolt holes are not.
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PeteSC
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:20 am Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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This Ghia has a stock width beam with drop spindles. No adapters though. Either get the drop spindle/disk brake kit or 5x130 drums. I don't know about those "Fooks" but if you go the drum route you'll have to turn the snout down a little to fit the center caps (at least you do for "Fuchs" repop style wheels).
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xzener
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:33 am Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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Not sure how many Fuch rim manufacturers have created repops… So would back spacing be different? I would also recommend purchasing drums and rotors to test fit. That is what I did. Ended up with a 2 inch narrow beam and a short axle conversion in the rear (I have a 68 with long axles). I shoe horned 17X7 Fuchs into my Ghia. Also, keep in mind, each KG was hand crafted, so one rim/tire may fit well with no rubbing on one Ghia, but not another. Make sense??
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Mellow Yellow 74
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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These have an offset of ET45 which is close to the original ET46 so would work well if you drilled the drums/rotors rather than using spacers.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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Some dropped spindles will add to the width like CB ones will add 5/8” per side, I think the EMPI ones are zero offset.
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Bones 53
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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I found using 6x16 original fuchs from the 80's Porsche worked very well. With these the lower ball joint didn't hit the wheel over bumps and the steering radius was good, so was the stance. I had dropped spindles and an adjustable beam with Avis adjusters. The beam was narrowed 1/2 inch on each side.
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Mellow Yellow 74
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:31 am Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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| Bones 53 wrote: |
| I found using 6x16 original fucks from the 80's Porsche worked very well. |
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didget69
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:58 am Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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... that's Fooked up.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:15 am Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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History Lesson:
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sciclunam
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:36 am Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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Thanks, guys for your input.
So it seems that the Ghia's original wheels are similar in dimensions to these SPF Fooks wheels with an ET 45? Anyone knows the ET of the original factory wheels?
Is drilling the existing 4 bolt disks and drums considered safe?
My other option would then be to keep the original wheels and do white walls. Anyone had issues with the white walls rubbing on the tyres and tearing the sides?
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Evil_Fiz
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: FOOKS wheels on GHIA |
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| sciclunam wrote: |
| ...Anyone knows the ET of the original factory wheels? |
I believe this information was taken from the Bentley manual"
"Karmann Ghias have 4˝Jx15 wheels. As of March, 1972, this rim size has also been used on other models covered by this Manual. Offset is the difference between the center of the rim width and the mounting face that bolts to the brake drum or brake disc hub. Karmann Ghia wheels have a 46-mm offset."
I got it from a post here on TS but can'rt remember the source.
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