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Splitdog
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| 53 0val wrote: |
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| I bought 2 NOS ones last year for $200 each and bought a really nice one at Kelley Park this year for $160. All these were the later replacement buttons or 54-55 style. The split bug ones are more detailed and those are really hard to find. |
It's the Zwitter and early oval buttons that are the detailed ones........the "split" buttons are really plain and simple.  |
Ahhh, 52 split with split dash would have the detailed button. |
Thought you knew. You can buy an NOS button in the box and 6 months after being in the sun, cracks.
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buggen
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| Splitdog wrote: |
| buggen wrote: |
| 53 0val wrote: |
| buggen wrote: |
| I bought 2 NOS ones last year for $200 each and bought a really nice one at Kelley Park this year for $160. All these were the later replacement buttons or 54-55 style. The split bug ones are more detailed and those are really hard to find. |
It's the Zwitter and early oval buttons that are the detailed ones........the "split" buttons are really plain and simple. |
Ahhh, 52 split with split dash would have the detailed button. |
Thought you knew. You can buy an NOS button in the box and 6 months after being in the sun, cracks. |
What does that mean  |
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buggen
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| 53 0val wrote: |
| buggen wrote: |
| 53 0val wrote: |
| buggen wrote: |
| I bought 2 NOS ones last year for $200 each and bought a really nice one at Kelley Park this year for $160. All these were the later replacement buttons or 54-55 style. The split bug ones are more detailed and those are really hard to find. |
It's the Zwitter and early oval buttons that are the detailed ones........the "split" buttons are really plain and simple. |
Ahhh, 52 split with split dash would have the detailed button. |
No........
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=354524 |
Bob that picture doesn't mean anything, are you sure? I thought the last of the split dash cars had the detailed horn button? Got any proof? |
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53 0val
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| buggen wrote: |
| 53 0val wrote: |
| buggen wrote: |
| 53 0val wrote: |
| buggen wrote: |
| I bought 2 NOS ones last year for $200 each and bought a really nice one at Kelley Park this year for $160. All these were the later replacement buttons or 54-55 style. The split bug ones are more detailed and those are really hard to find. |
It's the Zwitter and early oval buttons that are the detailed ones........the "split" buttons are really plain and simple. |
Ahhh, 52 split with split dash would have the detailed button. |
No........
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=354524 |
Bob that picture doesn't mean anything, are you sure? I thought the last of the split dash cars had the detailed horn button? Got any proof? |
How many do you want?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=328203
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=327071
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=226883
Proof.........1952 Owners's Manual page 2 and 9
I have no way of reproducing it here but someone else might. I have no reason to mis-inform you. The '52 spit button was as simple as they come.
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53 0val
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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If you are referring to this button Matt?..........It was hand painted and not VW.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=311052
This in combination with a similar bud vase and ash tray was indeed striking but was not produced by VW. (actually oval era accessory)
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buggen
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Bob I would never think you would try and mislead me. For some reason I just thought the last split dash bugs had the Wolfsburg horn button, I could very well be wrong, I just always like proof and pictures of other cars is not it. Does the progressive refinements give a listing for that? |
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53 0val
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Bob I would never think you would try and mislead me. For some reason I just thought the last split dash bugs had the Wolfsburg horn button, I could very well be wrong, I just always like proof and pictures of other cars is not it. Does the progressive refinements give a listing for that? |
Not that I could find..................but I have an awful time trying to make heads or tails out of that that publication anway. 
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johnshenry 
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| buggen wrote: |
| Bob I would never think you would try and mislead me. For some reason I just thought the last split dash bugs had the Wolfsburg horn button, I could very well be wrong, I just always like proof and pictures of other cars is not it. Does the progressive refinements give a listing for that? |
Not that I could find..................but I have an awful time trying to make heads or tails out of that that publication anway. |
That's because it has no pictures and large print............
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Brezelwerks
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Wow, so all this time I was thinking our horn button and housings were only for 49-50? I recall checking this out thoroughly several years ago, so thats new news to me that the castle button/matching housing came along in 53. I'll have to look up in other resources. Either way the later housings appear to be needed somewhat today.
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El Guero
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I have a  what color horn button should my Aug of 54 oval have a white one or the brownish colored one,cuz I've seen some with the white and brown ones. Thanks
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| I have a what color horn button should my Aug of 54 oval have a white one or the brownish colored one,cuz I've seen some with the white and brown ones. Thanks |
I think white.
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splitjunkie
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Wow, so all this time I was thinking our horn button and housings were only for 49-50? I recall checking this out thoroughly several years ago, so thats new news to me that the castle button/matching housing came along in 53. I'll have to look up in other resources. Either way the later housings appear to be needed somewhat today.
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That has always been my understanding. It was part of the dash redesign.
The 9-52 road and track article of a split dash split with 6000 miles on it at the time shows the plain ivory housing and button.
My '50 had a plain ivory housing with the castle button on when I got it. When I opened it up it had obviously be monkeyed with so it wasn't original.
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Brezelwerks
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Wow, so all this time I was thinking our horn button and housings were only for 49-50? I recall checking this out thoroughly several years ago, so thats new news to me that the castle button/matching housing came along in 53. I'll have to look up in other resources. Either way the later housings appear to be needed somewhat today.
Gary |
That has always been my understanding. It was part of the dash redesign.
The 9-52 road and track article of a split dash split with 6000 miles on it at the time shows the plain ivory housing and button.
My '50 had a plain ivory housing with the castle button on when I got it. When I opened it up it had obviously be monkeyed with so it wasn't original. |
Just confirmed from a few sources, the cutover to the castle button was indeed 10/52, the dash cutover. Makes sense, will be interesting news also to some other high end splits I know that have the wrong buttons! The wrong assumption I/others had made was that the castle button happened when the hood castle badge was implemented, go figure!
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sweden
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone Repro 55 and earlier horn buttons |
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From the Progressive Refinements.
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