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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Looks like your ready to roll up the sleeves and get after it. Love seeing this. But I found that you’ll need the sleeves for protection sticking your arms all up in a bus, lol. Congrats, keep the photos and updates coming.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

am I the only one wondering how the F you add oil to the motor? Question

and be VERY CAREFUL with that aux battery relay cable, the live terminal clamp can touch the sheetmetal and short out.. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Is that breather hose connected to the fuel tank vent? Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

My compression tests resulted in what seems to 2 bad cylinders number 1 and 2. 1 was 85, 2 was 62, 3 was 135, 4 was 125. I have to go buy an engine stand tomorrow so I can lift the engine up and take it apart. I almost got the fuel tank out too but the bracket on the right side refused to come off and I could not cut it cause I had fuel still draining so Il try and get it out tomorrow.

The oil filler turns so that's how they put oil in it before.

And no that's not the oil breather going to the fuel breather, they added a breather with a filter on it for the oil.

Any suggestions or insight to anything you guys see is appreciated!

And yes I will be moving the fuel filter to outside the engine bay.

I am seriously thinking of redoing all the wires cause that will drive me insane and also I would like to add caps and make sure all the wires are safe. Non of this 3 wires connected together to make one wire stuff.

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Maybe thats why my fuel gauge does not work....
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and the rest of my progress for today
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Yeah that wiring was done by a toddler who tools should be thrown into a lake

The good news is when you see this you know a do-over is needed.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

M0nk3y wrote:
Adding to the list!
Dirty pics first Dancing

CLEAN (now I can find the start of the leak!)

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I always wonder how people manage to dent those push rod tubes? I also haven't heard great things about the spring loaded push rod tubes. I would go with stock tubes and seals.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Prying against them to get the chinesium J tubes to fit
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Your post showing the wires running through the body panel sitting on bare metal was concerning. I have an assortment of rubber grommets and would put one in before I take it out for a drive. If the wires cannot be disconnected at this time and threaded through the grommet then you can always cut the grommet on the radius and push the wires through the cut and stuff the grommet in with the split at the top.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Good catch! I will be sure to add those to the list!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Wow. Were there any wires back there not spliced together? Shocked Mad

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

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FYI- You have a mismatch with the distributor and carb. You have a 30 series carb or H30/31 with a SVDA distributor. Those 30 series carbs only provide 80mm hg of vacuum. The vacuum canister on that SVDA requires 200MM hg to fully pull the arm and advance the timing.

Basically, that distributor was meant to be matched to a larger 34-3 carb on a dual port engine.

Post the numbers off the distributor.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

wcfvw69 Eyes like a hawk! Thanks for pointing this out. How do you learn how to match them correctly? Is there issues that can arise if not taken care of?

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1 235 522 056 and it also has a 983 on the side.
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from what I found with those numbers its a "Type 1 1974-1979 distributor"
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Today I had some energy to take the engine tins off and a few extras. I have an engine stand but I just purchased the yolk(will take a week to get here). So I did what I felt I could while its sitting on a skateboard. It is still full of oil so I did not wanna take it fully apart just yet. It looks in a little bit of rough shape but (for looks) most of it should be able to come out with some scrubbing, cleaning, and maybe some more scrubbing. The Head bolts on 1/2 were SUPER loose. I barley put the ratchet on and applied light pressure and it came loose. The one on the far right was so loose it came off with the weight of just the ratchet. Maybe that's the cause of my oil leak. Would that make me have low compression? The oil cooler might need to be changed... Just kidding I WILL change it.





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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

You have a 043905205C distributor with a SVDA vacuum can mounted on it. When it is was delivered new, it had a DVDA vacuum can on it.

If you're keeping that engine single port, I'd ditch that EMPI (Chinese) carb, get a restored German Solex PICT30-3 carb and a matching BOSCH SVA distributor like a 113905205T. That was the combo a single port engine in a 1970 bus came with.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

If you can do it, I'd recommend upgrading to a doghouse oil cooler adapter and oil cooler along with a doghouse fan shroud. Find used german tin for the shroud.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Is this fixable? I have seen a few posts about the non-tube version getting rewired, but nothing about the internals of this tube type getting rewired and the metal connectors being put back together.
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Fuel Tank- needs the acid washdown but besides that looks pretty good. I am assuming since the float is from 1969 that this fuel tank is also original.
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OIL (not pretty) The crud is not metallic(i think), I put a magnet up to it and it did not stick. They crumble when I put some force on them. I tried to clean them up to see what it was but they stay black. Any ideas what it could be? Should I be looking somewhere in the engine specifically to see if there is more damage?

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I will try and take the cylinders apart tomorrow and see how those look. It should be the time of year where I have more time to work on this, but it looks like I wont have as much down time as I was hoping for to work on this. So it might take a few weeks to get it torn down to where i feel comfortable to put it back in.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Today I pulled 1/2 cylinder head off. I found one pushrod on #2 was bent. The bolts holding the cylinder head on were all pretty loose Mad . Got the pushrod tubes out and set aside and was about to take the jugs off. But they are on there. I cant seem to get them to move. I dont wanna break the fins, so il find some wd40 or penetrating oils tomorrow. the insides are not too bad looking (at least i think) they def need to be cleaned up. there is one shiny spot on #1 i think that i need to figure out. Hopefully i can get the jugs off soon so i can inspect the rings and start to figure out what parts need to be on order.
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Did someone try to grind or cut something here???
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

anyone have some input on the fuel level sensor or the condition of the pistons and valves? This is the deepest I have ever taken apart an engine and I would appreciate any input and what I should be looking for. To me it looks like the pistons and valves could use a good clean up but there is the orange/shiny part on #1 that worries me. But other than that they look in good shape to me. I also Can't get the jugs off, I chipped a small fin off at the base already so I don't wanna break anymore. Anyone have some tricks on how to get them off?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

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anyone have some input on the fuel level sensor or the condition of the pistons and valves? This is the deepest I have ever taken apart an engine and I would appreciate any input and what I should be looking for. To me it looks like the pistons and valves could use a good clean up but there is the orange/shiny part on #1 that worries me. But other than that they look in good shape to me. I also Can't get the jugs off, I chipped a small fin off at the base already so I don't wanna break anymore. Anyone have some tricks on how to get them off?


I can't help you with the motor. For the sender, TCash posted this:

Fuel Gauge and Sender early bay t2a 1968-72 FAQ

this website may be helpful: www.hallvw.clara.net/fuelsend.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

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anyone have some input on the fuel level sensor or the condition of the pistons and valves? This is the deepest I have ever taken apart an engine and I would appreciate any input and what I should be looking for. To me it looks like the pistons and valves could use a good clean up but there is the orange/shiny part on #1 that worries me. But other than that they look in good shape to me. I also Can't get the jugs off, I chipped a small fin off at the base already so I don't wanna break anymore. Anyone have some tricks on how to get them off?


I can't help you with the motor. For the sender, TCash posted this:

Fuel Gauge and Sender early bay t2a 1968-72 FAQ

this website may be helpful: www.hallvw.clara.net/fuelsend.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 hightop Bus. Let the work begin! Reply with quote

Good pictures

You dodged a bullet with this motor. Usually when the head lots get loose, hot gases machine the heads to junk. Those look ok.

There is a lot of coke on that motor though. Someone did not believe in oil changes. If you want a 3 year plus runner, I would tear down and wash it all out.
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