Coworkers coming to work sick :(

[cdennisg]

Never had a job with benefits such as paid leave or sick days, or vacation, or retirement, or medical insurance.. Unless I cannot get out of bed, I generally go to work. Mostly work with one or two guys, so it is rarely an issue.

Will be self employed soon. No time for sick days. No support for sick days. No paid time off. I will be on my own.

If you work in an office with dozens of other people, and have paid sick days and time off and vacation and retirement, stay home when you are sick.
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[Dwayne1m]

[doregan]

[finster]

at least with co-workers you can send them home or maybe avoid them but I work serving the public and they just love to cough/sneeze/puke in any direction. the number of people who sneeze into the hand they're holding the money in, then hand it over is astounding - I feel like saying 'shall I spit on your change then we're quits?'

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[sixfootdan]

I didn't notice anyone mention it but the first thing your employer looks at when it comes time for your review is probably attendance. It's a double edged sword, You have sick time available but you need to perform in order to advance. That drives me to tough it out sometimes depending on the severity of the illness. Nobody at work is going to commend you and give you a raise based on how many people you didn't get sick. Do I want to get sick at work by someone else or get someone sick? Of course not, But I also have to look out for number one.
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[kingkarmann]

I say as a society we have become too hygienic. Roll in the dirt and share a toothbrush once in awhile. Builds up the immune system!

[calvinater]

^^^what he said People you gotta learn to use that micro-biome inside to your advantage.
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When I was employed, imagine touching all of the keyboards mouse and telephone hand sets I had to touch OMG. Oh wait then there was times when I had no choice but to go into the jail and make repairs. You say germs! EWWW Yep did get paid for unused sick leave when retiring. No more of any of that thank you very much.
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[doregan]

[Raymond73]

At my work our earned leave is split into two flavors: ordinary and sick. Although ordinary leave accumulation is capped at a specific number of hours a year, sick leave is not capped. As such, sick leave is essentially banked until needed or "sold back" to the government upon retirement as additional time served.

Even with our generous sick leave benefit, a strong union presence, and majority of supervisors seemingly willing to grant leave without reprisal, quite a few employees still seem to come to work sick. I don't have hard data, but I do hear the sneezing, hacking and coughing on a daily basis.

If it wasn't for the selling back option, I wonder if fewer of our people would come into work sick.

Ray

Some links:

https://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/fers-information/creditable-service/

https://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/publications-forms/csrsfers-handbook/c050.pdf
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[KTPhil]

Early in my career, most employers had separate vacation and sick leave pools. Most aerospace (and other) companies have gone to a "common pool" system where sick leave and vacation are combined and limited to a maximum accrual. This has encouraged both abuse, and also coming to work sick. A very shortsighted step... and now they reap what they sow, so I have little sympathy.

[doregan]

Years ago, many employers had the two pools and an employee could accumulate and carryover up to 180 days of sick leave. Few employers would pay an employee for unused sick leave when they left the company. It seems that only public employers (schools, government) would do that.

I left a company while I had 180 days of unused sick leave. The point of accumulating those days was to have them there in the event you needed them. If you went on disability, you only received 60% of your pay and were excluded from the company's savings program (e.g, 401k Plan). So it was worth accumulating those days even if you never used them.

I worked largely in a management capacity and there was a need for me to be in the office. Most people would come into the office if they had a cold and that is probably true today. Sneezing and coughing can be allergy symptoms and not necessarily sickness.

Having said that, we had a woman bring her child to the office when the kid was sick. The kid had something more that a cold, as I remember. I think it was measles or chicken pox. Now that is truly dangerous. As I recall, someone complained to HR and she and her issue were sent home.

[Dwayne1m]

180 days of sick leave?

[obus]

i'm in wine and liquor sales. no work means no commission. And when there are 20 plus salespeople all selling the same stuff then it is a dog eat dog world. If it is January and i am sick it is a different story vs being sick in the summer or from the end of october until jan1st. Those are my busy times. You don't call in sick.....
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