What snore or score class would a cal look dune buugy fall in

[winddude]

Been interested in desert racing, and now the manx style cal look dune buggies for awhile.

I was trying to figure out what score class a manx style buggy would fall in. Doesn't seem like anyone runs them anymore, but they seem to have started the baja challenge with Bruce Meyers and the bikes. It also looks like Bruce Meyers and Vic Wilson ran an off road manx in the 2002 Baja 1000 (http://www.off-road.com/competition/race/2002-scor...?printable), but I can't find the class they raced in.

Closest I can figure out it could fit in is:
SCORE Lites
or
SCORE Class 1/2-1600

Looking through pics of these two, seems like most of the vehicles just run flat panels as body work, and have to be over a chromoly tube chassis. I guess the flat panels saves a little weight and less body work to get hung up.

[winddude]

I believe this is the car Bruce Meyers ran in 2002 and maybe 2014.

(http://offroadnewswire.com/racing/a-meyers-manx-race-car-resuscitation/)

Anyone have more info on it? Thanks

[bigfatloser]

The cars #1967 indicates pro utv in SCORE, (#1900 to 1999) seems odd to me.

1/2-1600 does not allow coil overs, SCORE lites does.
1/2 1600 to me would be the class with the best bang for your buck. Lites seems to be a bit more involved fabrication/dollar wise.

Just my opinion.
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[joescoolcustoms]

SCORE and SNORE are super competitive races and most entries are big $.

The NORRA 1000 race is very different. It is more of a rally consisting of 5 days of racing and tries to stay closer to the route Bruce and Ted took for the first buggy run in April 1967 beating the bikes time. The NORRA runs he length of the Baja ending at the Southern Tip. Whereas the SNORE and SCORE races are a circle of sorts usually ending back at the start line. This NORRA race is regarded as the Friendliest Race on Earth, and it lives up to that reputation.

In NORRA, the classes are different than SCORE and SNORE, and they are based on the suspension and time period of the race cars. The first class is Called the Pioneer Class (1967 to 1975) for Buggies/Beetles/Bajas that run swing axle suspensions. Type 1 based engines. Trucks an 4X4's can be in that class but have to abide by the year rules and lesser suspension mods.

The second class is for IRS suspensions with no coil overs and called the Legend Class, (1976 to 1982). Type 1 Engines also. trucks have to be manufactured in that year era too.

Then NORRA created a Meyers Class a few years back. The only rule is the body has to be a Meyers Product. Winnie Meyers told me she would protest to NORRA and they would agree to her recommendation if an entrant entered this class with a Meyers product thinly draped over a Trophy machine, aka a "Ringer". This class was designed for the Evolution of the sport to promote technology in the buggy hobby.

We ran my Original Manx in the NORRA 2018 race running it in the Meyers Class along side the long travel Dual Sport Baja Edition Subaru Powered Manxters. In the 2018 NORRA race, one original Manx was in the Pioneer Class (Swing Axle) and finished the race. One buggy was in the Legend Class running with the Open Wheels Tube Chassis FUNCO style rail buggies. There was 4 in the Meyers Class and we had an absolute blast doing it. As a East US Team, we drove the Buggy across the US to the race, raced it, completed the race 121 out of 270 overall, then drove the buggy back home across the US.

Day 4 coming out of the silt beds after getting hit by Don Prudhomme from behind.

After the race, on our way home back East we stopped at Bruce and Winnie's House and Bruce wanted a picture with us. Bruce and Winnie traveled the entire race with us, and stayed a couple days in San Jose Del Cabo at the end of the race.

Day 1 starting the race in Ensenada MX. Mike Pearlman pointing the way. Mike's father started the First NORRA 1000 in October 1967.

The 5th day coming into the finish line, beaten, rolled it once, busted, worn and loving every minute of it. Our wives in the background in Orange shirts.

Our Team of 14 partying in San Jose Del Cabo at the Awards Ceremony on the Beach at the Sea of Cortez.

Here is the chassis I built in my garage in West Virginia. Very light weight coming in at 1835 pounds race ready with spare tire, tools, spare parts and full tank of fuel.

2 AM after Day two at the campground of Bay of De Los Angeles working on leaking fuel tank, (Crap EMPI Sender Gasket that melted), ripped out shock mount getting welded back in, replacing steering box that broke off the beam, putting on third Carburetor, tightening wheel bearings, working on communication systems. Made the next days starting time for Day 3 and did very well.

A passing shot on Day 3, the longest day at over 400 miles off road.

It is an adventure of a lifetime. As a fist time race team, running the NORRA race instead of a SCORE or SNORE allowed us to work on the buggy and keep it going every evening. If we had ran the other races, we would not have finished because they start and do not have any breaks until the end of the 1000 miles and time is called.
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Looks like it was painted with a live chicken,polished with a brick and buffed with a pine cone

[winddude]

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[manxvair]

"Do you need to run with chase and support vehicles in the NORRA? I would be interested in talking more with you about the logistics, although I'm probably a few years out from being able to race in it."
Yes, for the NORRA 1000 you should have chase support. NORRA will have 500 mile 2 day event in October 2019 that revolves around Ensenada and takes place over 4 days instead of 10. 2 250 miles loops starting and stopping in Ensenada make it more affordable while not requiring as much support logistics.

[joescoolcustoms]

[winddude]

Thanks for the info. The fuel/parts was the biggest thing I was worrying about. I guess the NORRA 1000 doesn't have pit-crews to hire or tire sponsors to use for pits? It would be nice to have an RV meet you at the end of each stage with somewhere warm to sleep.

[winddude]

I heard back from one of the builders, Marty Fiolka, of the Bruce Myers buggy in 2002 and 2014.

In the 2002 Baja it ran in it's own special class, I guess they do things for you when you help invent the race and built a car that became a lifestyle. lol

In 2014 in the NORRA 1000 in ran in the buggy class.

It may even be for sale! Would need a full race prep. Anyone want to do a team purchase with a bunch of internet strangers? lol

[joescoolcustoms]

[manxvair]

While yes the 67 team entered without a chase crew, they were also unable to complete some of the stages because they did not have a crew to refuel them. They would start the stage and then bypass the rest of it and take the max penalty time. They obviously had to be mindful of how they pushed the car with no backup parts. It was a valiant effort and they did what they had to do with what they had to work with. You don't beat Baja, you survive it!

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