Author |
Message |
Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
|
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
^^^^^^^ R ewe Related 2 mark tucker? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Dwayne1m Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2011 Posts: 3538 Location: Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
What we might have here is guys who have jobs that provide perks that they might be taking for granted. I'm 56 and have never worked for a place that provides paid sick days. I can kinda understand where some would get pissed if a coworker shows up sick, mainly if you work in close proximity with regular contact. At my job I'm by myself 90% of the time and we regularly come in sick because we don't want to waste our vacation days just because we don't feel good, unless we feel that bad where we can't get out of bed. It's a common understanding that if one of us is sick we give them room because we know at some point in time we'll be in the same situation. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9829 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
|
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
vwracerdave wrote: |
Dwayne1m wrote: |
180 days of sick leave? |
I retired with 242 days of accumulated sick leave. I earned 13 sick leave days a year. The typical 40 hour work week is 260 working days a year.
I will tell all you Fed Gov't workers that mathmatically you are far better off burning up your sick leave than saving it and converting to service time. Those 242 days only gets me $50 more a month in retirement pay. |
Well, 50 bucks a month is $600/year x 30 or 40 years that you'll live after you retire.
So 18 to 24 Grand ain't nothin' to sneeze at. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
doregan Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2017 Posts: 30 Location: Wyomissing, Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
Dwayne1m wrote: |
180 days of sick leave? |
That's cumulative over 22 years. We were given about 10 days of sick leave per year. I averaged taking two per year. There were probably 8 - 10 years when I did not take any sick leave. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Dwayne1m Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2011 Posts: 3538 Location: Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:25 am Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
doregan wrote: |
Dwayne1m wrote: |
180 days of sick leave? |
That's cumulative over 22 years. We were given about 10 days of sick leave per year. I averaged taking two per year. There were probably 8 - 10 years when I did not take any sick leave. |
OK, so 10 days of paid sick days per year is 2 extra weeks of paid vacation per year. That's an pretty good perk! Good for anyone that has that benefit but not everyone does, so take that into consideration when people come to work sick. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
|
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
Dwayne1m wrote: |
180 days of sick leave? |
For a few years, I was eligible as well for a ton of sick days each year as well. But unused days were not able to be saved, or any benefit to the employee. Company did away with this, went to 1 week sick and maybe manager discretion. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Dwayne1m Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2011 Posts: 3538 Location: Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
Cusser wrote: |
Dwayne1m wrote: |
180 days of sick leave? |
For a few years, I was eligible as well for a ton of sick days each year as well. But unused days were not able to be saved, or any benefit to the employee. Company did away with this, went to 1 week sick and maybe manager discretion. |
If the company is offering paid sick days and you can't carry them over, why would an employee not use them? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ach60 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2001 Posts: 4139 Location: Santa Maria
|
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
I worked for the same company for 34+ years.
In the 80's 10 days paid sick leave a year, 5 short bank, 5 long bank.
You were expected never to use the long bank, unless you had serious illness,
at that point you would use up your long bank, before you went on disability.
it was some-what common that some people would take their whole 5 day short bank, as soon as they got it for the year.
In the 90's the branch of the company when from 27,000 people on site to less than 9000 people.
A lot of things changed in the 90's, mostly the attitude of my fellow employees,
those of us that remained actually work, and give a damned about it.
In the 2000's we merged with another large company, since then, we lose a little of our benefits every year.
But to be honest we still have a really good benefits package compared to most employers.
We are allowed 5 days sick leave a year.
When I have a cold that I could spread, you know it, I stay home for a day or two, and then limit my exposure my employees for the rest of the week. _________________ Good Luck
Al |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Jacks Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2006 Posts: 2348 Location: San Clemente, Ca.
|
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
Now here's an in-company memo to all the employees and it's regarding sick leave policy. First of all, sickness, no excuse, we will no longer accept your doctor's statement, if you're able to go to the doctor, you're able to come to work. Leave of absence, that is for an operation you might be having, we will no longer allow this practice. We wish to discourage any thought that you may need an operation. As long as you're employed here you will need of all of whatever you have and should not consider having anything removed. We hired you as you are and to have anything removed would certainly make you less than what we bargained for. Additionally, too much time is being spent in the restroom. In the future we will go to the restroom in alphabetical order. For instance, those whose names begin with A will go from 8am to 8:05am, B will go from 8:05am to 8:10am and so on. If you're unable to go at yourt ime you will need to wait until the day your turn comes again. Death other than your own. This is no excuse, you can do nothing for them and we're sure that someone else in a lesser position can attend the arrangements. However, if the funeral can be held in the late afternoon, we will be glad to let you off one hour early provided that your share of work is done ahead of time to keep the job going in your absence. Death, your own, this will be an accepted excuse but we would like at least a two-week notice as we feel it is your duty to teach someone else your job. _________________ Jack Staggs
Actual name |
|
Back to top |
|
|
oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12740 Location: Western Canada
|
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
Paid sick leave? Banked sick leave? Cumulative sick leave? Converting sick leave to service time? Sick leave sold back? 40 hour work weeks? 5 weeks vacation pay?
Can you spell P-A-M-P-E-R-E-D?
Holy Crap!
With the exception of one short stint that had a bit of a benifit package (but didn't pay a living wage) all 45+ years of my working life have been "Drag your sorry butt to work you wimp, there's bills to pay and a job to keep!" and you will be there until the job is done or they pack you off site in a pine box!
As for productivity while feeling a bit off, I have always been paid by what I produce not how many hours it takes. It's a great equalizer!
And - how the heck can you develop a strong immune system having never been exposed to anything? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 11056 Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
|
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
Hahha... Im more worried about the soccer mom and her 3 crumb crunchers rolling dumpsters I have to deal with... than any one at work..
Im so glad I dont man a cash register or deal with the physical public much.. avoid it at my own risk.
If Im sick.. which thankfully is rare... I'll either take off no pay.. or go to work to build my immune system even further.
Usually only stay out sick if I have a fever..
I work pretty much alone.. wear "rubbers" .. gloves that is.. wash my gloves so I can keep working (and save money).. and wash my hands often..
Im sure it helps the most..
I get PTO days.. earn 2 on the 15th of every month so 24 days total ...
Zero holiday pay, zero sick pay. If you I want paid for time off I have to use those earned days.. .. if I dont want paid.. I dont have to use them.. can only carry over 5 days to the next year.
So damn skippy I'm using them for sunny days.. or vacation..
Save for rainy days.. dont live paycheck to paycheck.. and wash ya damn hands people.
There are some nasty fuckers out there .... and I am the first to call you out in a restroom.. whether you shake or squat... and then not wash .. uggh..
. _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bigdog1962 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2010 Posts: 1586 Location: Augusta, Georgia
|
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
^^^^^^^ R ewe Related 2 mark tucker? |
Don't make me block you too! _________________ Oprn wrote: I'm getting to the age that any self propelled woman (no wheel chair or walker) looks HOT!! Oooo! look at that Babe! She made it from the dining room all the way to the TV room without help!! Hubba, hubba!! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
|
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
Jealous?
Last edited by Zundfolge1432 on Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:03 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
|
skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16883 Location: sticksville, ct.
|
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
oprn wrote: |
Paid sick leave? Banked sick leave? Cumulative sick leave? Converting sick leave to service time? Sick leave sold back? 40 hour work weeks? 5 weeks vacation pay?
Can you spell P-A-M-P-E-R-E-D? "Drag your sorry butt to work you wimp, there's bills to pay and a job to keep!" and you will be there until the job is done or they pack you off site in a pine box! |
if I'm sick, I'm sick. boss/owner/manager can GFTS. I don't perform well with snots bleeding out of my eyes and ears....
pay me...or don't. that's when "wage compensation" comes in. "skills, where did that transmission go" don't know
worked with an old guy...he coined the phase where I worked. he said "wage compensation, because if you don't steal it, someone else will"
still, I am amazed how many seem to live paycheck to paycheck. days off/sick time is a benefit....either pay me an assload of money so I can afford to be out for a week, or pay me going rate with some days off...and don't dictate how/when I can use them.
told an old service manager "I came here looking for a job, i'll leave looking for one"
and companies wonder why no one wants to work for them.... _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20278 Location: Sandpoint, ID
|
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
either pay me an assload of money so I can afford to be out for a week, or pay me going rate with some days off...and don't dictate how/when I can use them. |
I have been saying this for years. I don't want benefits. Pay me whatever those benefits would cost the company and let me make my own benefits. _________________ nothing |
|
Back to top |
|
|
oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12740 Location: Western Canada
|
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
One of the biggest lies of my life was when the teachers at school said "You can be in life anything you want to be."
Ha!! Wrong!
You can be whatever there is a market for Buddy! And it ain't always going to be a cushy job because there just aren't enough of those for everyone to have one. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9481 Location: NOVA
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:53 am Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
I work with sick people all the time. Just wash your hands and don't be touching anybody and stick those same hands in your food.
Sick days are even more limited now at my workplace...you only get 5 absences. You have to wait till the tail end of you the first sick day you took to drop off before you can again. And if you are on the 5 already - you will get your warning. A 6th is a pink slip.
I work in a hospital - if I find anyone snivelling, snot coming down, I stay away. I don't even shake hands w/ my friends at work. Wash hands every time.
And stop kissing people you don't know. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
hotsam Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2015 Posts: 366 Location: Ashburn, VA
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
This is why I prefer to work for smaller companies. After I prove my value and earn trust, there are no real rules.
Yesterday I asked my boss how much time I had to take off for Christmas, because our client is shutting down for a week and a half. His response was, "take whatever time you need." I have only worked for him since August. _________________ 1968 Beetle |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Jon Schmid Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2012 Posts: 2038 Location: Southern California
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
LOL, Jack. I remember that. I figure I have a pretty good immune system, I haven't missed a day for sickness in years. I figure that if I'm sick, I am definitely staying home because if something made me sick, it would probably kill someone else. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Coworkers coming to work sick :( |
|
|
Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
^^^^^^^ R ewe Related 2 mark tucker? |
no he isant but if you come to fl Ill be glad to blow you a kiss if Im sick...or find somebody that is to do it for me. and if somebody comes to work sick try to make them as miserable feeling as possible. and if there useless fire them. if your sick satay home. or be sure to breathe real good on the boss and shake his hand as often as possible.or her hand.and kiss it too. be sure to sneeze in their coffee. and for gods sake be sure the firing order is 4321432143214321432143214321 zoom zoom zoom!!!and then drive through the bosses foliage, zunderfuly fast!!! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|