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Heyheyitsraay Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2018 Posts: 11
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:46 pm Post subject: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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Hello all. Ive been having a issue for a while. So here's the scenario
I get in my 66 bug and usually have to give it some gas to get it started/idle. Once the bug is warmed up I am on my way for about a 30 minute drive on the highway. Once I get off the highway into to town, I am in stop and go traffic. About 10-15 mins of traffic later my Baja will slowly die. I will push down the acceleration pedal and she won't rev. Try down shift, won't rev....now I'm on the side of the road. I sit there for approx 45min. Then the Baja will start up again and I'm on my way.
I've tried pouring gas into the carb and she'll start for a while but I'll have to be pushing the acceleration pedal constantly to keep it running.
Side note: I've driven it almost 2 hrs away at a consistant 60-65mph.
Visited family for about an hour and drove it back those same 2 hours. Stopped at the store around the corner from my house (turned car off to go in and get some beer) came back out and she turned on fine.
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Heyheyitsraay Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2018 Posts: 11
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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Also. Very sure it's not vapor lock as I have plenty of fuel in my fuel filter as well as wrapped the very little metal line with alminum foil |
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Mikedrevguy Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2008 Posts: 2237 Location: Medford, OR
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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What’s the carbs? Motor? Fuel pressure? Fuel pump?
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tripicana Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2003 Posts: 1164 Location: colorado springs
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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I had a bad coil act like that. It would heat up and start stumbling and slowly die, not like most electrical on/off problems. Let it sit for a while, start right up, repeat process. _________________ foam cowboy hats aren't good helmets. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20378 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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Two thoughts, vacuum in fuel tank the fuel pump can not overcome, how good is tank vent... Maybe next drive with cap loose or off will validate vent problem...
As others mention, coil, as it heats up may be failing as it gets "hot"... Heat makes a connection in side coil go high resistance, as it cools resistance drops and it will run....
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Heyheyitsraay Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2018 Posts: 11
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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Mikedrevguy wrote: |
What’s the carbs? Motor? Fuel pressure? Fuel pump?
What’s the motor specs? |
34 pict 3. 1600cc. Not sure of fuel pressure. Fuel pump is aftermarket I presume.
I also recently changed the coil so gonna give that a go in a few days |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12848 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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When it dies, remove the top of the carb & check fuel level in float bowl. If empty then you need to find out if there is a restriction & where it's at. This could be due to a blockage in the tank, the fuel line, fuel filter, possibly a bad fuel pump, a binding fuel pump pushrod (This presents itself when the engine gets warm & expands causing the fuel pump pushrod spacer to bind the pushrod, after a few minutes of cooling, it releases & starts pumping fuel again.).
If the bowl is full, you might have a piece of trash that intermittently blocks the main jet. Or, you might have an electrical issue, perhaps the points or condenser. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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Multi69s Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 5363 Location: Lefty, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
When it dies, remove the top of the carb & check fuel level in float bowl. If empty then you need to find out if there is a restriction & where it's at. This could be due to a blockage in the tank, the fuel line, fuel filter, possibly a bad fuel pump, a binding fuel pump pushrod (This presents itself when the engine gets warm & expands causing the fuel pump pushrod spacer to bind the pushrod, after a few minutes of cooling, it releases & starts pumping fuel again.).
If the bowl is full, you might have a piece of trash that intermittently blocks the main jet. Or, you might have an electrical issue, perhaps the points or condenser. |
That's WAY to hard. You DON'T have to pull the carb apart to see if it is empty of fuel. Just pull off the air cleaner and look down the carb throat. If fuel squirts out of the accelerator jet nozzles when you work the throttle, there's fuel in the bowl. If it doesn't, carb is dry. _________________ 69 road Bug 2110
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Pam's buggy Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2018 Posts: 58 Location: IN
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:07 am Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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You said you recently changed the coil.
Could be the problem.
What coil did you use?
It could be a good coil and still get hot.
If it's not the right ohm range.
Do you still have the external resistor on it?
If so does the coil have a internal resistor? |
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Heyheyitsraay Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2018 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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Pam's buggy wrote: |
You said you recently changed the coil.
Could be the problem.
What coil did you use?
It could be a good coil and still get hot.
If it's not the right ohm range.
Do you still have the external resistor on it?
If so does the coil have a internal resistor? |
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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Have you checked for fuel flow past the filter? _________________ Richard
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Heyheyitsraay Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2018 Posts: 11
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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Heyheyitsraay wrote: |
Pam's buggy wrote: |
You said you recently changed the coil.
Could be the problem.
What coil did you use?
It could be a good coil and still get hot.
If it's not the right ohm range.
Do you still have the external resistor on it?
If so does the coil have a internal resistor? |
It's the blue boi |
So to update all. Thanks for the replies. I took it for a good long spin today. Turned it off and back on twice while out for about an hour and a half. But I'm only now annoyed with the fact that I also did a express carb clean. So I am unsure if it was the coil or the carb. I am still on edge because I have yet to check the fuel pressure. I borrowed the fuel pressure gauge from AutoZone but it didn't work because the psi we're too high |
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Mal evolent Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2009 Posts: 2912 Location: San Antonio, Nuevo Mexico
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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in my experience, just replace all the vacuum hoses before you start troubleshooting.tighten connections, inspect manifold rubber - eliminate any possibility of vacuum leaks, and you may not have any trouble to shoot _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
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DHale_510 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2010 Posts: 378 Location: Nampa Idaho
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Fuel issue. Baja dies |
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I have been bitten by the little rubber pigtail fuel line under the gas tank collapsing several times. It still flows enough to run slowly but not at speed. It's the simplest thing to fix too. Replace it first.
Dennis |
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