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billholderby Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2018 Posts: 1 Location: moreno valley
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:59 pm Post subject: clutch pedal hard |
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in my california clipper,pedal is a bitch to push.whats the best conversion kit to make hydrolic.thanks
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hillmotorsports Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2014 Posts: 432 Location: Morrisburg, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:36 am Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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I don't call myself an expert by any means but yours is an unusual problem, vw clutch operation is seldom an issue. I would look for a cable problem rather than reinvent the wheel switching to a hydraulic operator. Look for a dry cable or a kink.
You should disconnect the cable at the clutch release arm, see if the cable then moves freely when the pedal is pushed.
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Letterman7 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 3198 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:33 am Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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^ This. When I rebuilt my drive line, I had inadvertently tightened the clutch cable too much - that wingnut on the end on the other side of the throw-out arm. Couldn't push the pedal at all. Loosened that wingnut up and problem solved. |
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jspbtown Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5156
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:34 am Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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And I will add to make sure you cable and throw out arm is corrosion free and well lubricated. Also make sure your Bowden tube has the correct bend to it.
A hydraulic system is more trouble than its worth IMO. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20379 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:41 am Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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Cable system is so much simpler and trouble free if you can find what issue is and fix/repair.... Pretty good chance you are going to have continuing problems with clutch just converting to hydraulics....
Do you have cable properly adjusted, do you have correct throw out bearing for pressure plate style?
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woodoctr Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2013 Posts: 254 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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As everybody is telling you here.....there is so much to the "clutch" system that should be checked out before even thinking about going to a new system. From corroded/bent pedals, cable, bowden tube, clutch arm length, wing nut/ free play, shaft problems at the tranny, and all the clutch stuff itself. I was supporting over 300 hp from a rotary and I had the clutch moving like butter for many years. |
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BL3Manx Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2006 Posts: 6767 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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Besides making sure everything is as it should be, the later levers were longer and reduced effort by over 25%
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MrGoodtunes Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2012 Posts: 852 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:04 am Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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BL3Manx wrote: |
... later levers were longer and reduced effort by over 25% ... |
Keep in mind this would also mean having to push in the clutch pedal through a wider angle, which your build may allow room for. Having these choices is one of the best things about buggy building, and having this site with so many knowledgeable and helpful people sharing is the greatest.
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Letterman7 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 3198 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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Learn sumptin' new every day... |
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drs1023 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2011 Posts: 1682 Location: Georgia, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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My last hard to press clutch issue ended up being a badly work Bowdon Tube.
If that isn't the problem. my money's on a poor fit between the clutch release bearing and pressure plate (worn mating surface, "noisy" bearing, cable too tight, etc.).
To go off topic, I currently am having extremely hard to push clutch problems on a 1989 F350, 7.3 diesel 5 speed. I installed a new slave cylinder - no effect. I installed a new clutch master cylinder - no effect, still almost impossible to push. So, hydraulic systems are not fix-all's either. |
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joescoolcustoms Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 9054 Location: West By God Virginia
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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I run a Stage III Kennedy Pressure Plate in my buggy. I installed the Classic Bug Parts roller tip pedal shaft, and the longest arm Nelson showed above. My 110 pound, 5' 2" wife says it is easier than her stock Miata.
I have installed two different hydraulic systems on two different buggies I have built, and I personally would not own either one. The one that is in the tunnel sucked and gives constant issues staying in adjustment. The other had a positioning issue and makes a awkward feel to the pedal. _________________ Bad News Racing 2018 NORRA 1000 3rd in Class
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Letterman7 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 3198 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: clutch pedal hard |
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Bill hasn't checked back in in 3 days... we may never know |
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