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gtainc Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: Bend, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:08 pm Post subject: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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German Transaxle has just found a quality source for converting early 92-96 and later 97-04 Eurovans from automatic to manual. For those with the early 5cyl. motors and failed or failing auto's, this is the best option to keep your van on the road. Since we discontinued building the pre 97, we have been trying to source an option to convert these. Pricing is still to come as we work with our supplier on quantity options. Feel free to give us a call for more info and options. Would love to see how much interest there is, as this could help us in our purchasing power.[/b] |
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JFBx Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2018 Posts: 52 Location: SS, MD
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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I am seriously interested in a 5 (or 6?) speed manual conversion when my 2002 weekender's AT takes a dump (170K now).
Thanks for putting the word out.
--jb _________________ '02 Weekender, '02 S6 MT, '06 A3 3.2 |
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gtainc Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: Bend, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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At this point that's exactly what we're doing, just getting the word out so that people know that they have some different options. |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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To be clear, this T4 manual transmission case would bolt up to a VR6 engine? I've heard these exist, but have never seen one. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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Joshwa Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2015 Posts: 810 Location: North Seattle WA
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VAEV1993 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2014 Posts: 153 Location: Harrisonburg, VA
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:30 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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Just adding a comment to say thanks for looking into this. Exciting to hear. This is certainly the plan for our van once the time comes. _________________ 1993 Weekender - Hula
2002 Golf TDI
2017 Golf Alltrack |
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YOGIVW Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2005 Posts: 263 Location: Olsztyn/POLAND
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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Joshwa wrote: |
It’s an 02g/AFL that bolts onto the the VR6. The ECU will need an adjustment as well. |
Mine 2001 VR6 24V has manual transmission from early 140PSm VR6 it drives and shifts fine but it is more than "ECU adjustment". Right now ABS and ESP are deactivated because ECU dosen't see TCU and changing codes doesen't help. On disels it is simply job but not on late VR6 204PS. So probably kit offered by German Transaxle is only for 96-98 140PS Eurovans which were never fitted with ESP. _________________ Pawel
Vw 1303 1979 Black&Beige convertible
VW T4 2001 Caravelle Business 2.8 V6
Westfalia James Cook 2.9TD |
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IdeaNerd Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2016 Posts: 598 Location: Central California
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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@gtainc nice to see you posting here directly.
I can imaging being interested in this for one of our vans at some point down the road.
Related question for @gtainc or anyone else: I'm not clear on all the T4 engine / transaxle combinations (worldwide) by year, but I'm curious: would this manual transmission option open the door to possible Syncro conversion for the 01-03 models? i.e. similar to what I've seen done w/earlier-year TDI engines having a manual transmission (such as @wildenbeast's well-known example here). |
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Joshwa Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2015 Posts: 810 Location: North Seattle WA
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pwcgecko Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2017 Posts: 47
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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i would be interested in the future as well. 2002 Eurovan at 112k. _________________ 2002 Eurovan Weekender in SoCal |
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gtainc Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: Bend, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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So these are all European models available basically everywhere but the US. We will have 5 speeds for the 92-96 5 cyl gas/4 cyl diesels and 5 speeds for the 97-04 VR6 models. These will be sold as a (kit) meaning all necessary good used parts to convert to a manual. Shifter & linkage, clutch pedal, flywheel, slave and master cyl's and of course the transaxle. The details are still being worked out and those parts that do not come with it or should be purchased new (i.e. clutch ect..)we will provide new parts or a parts list for the buyer to source. As we are still working on this, if anyone is interested please feel free to give us a call. I will update this post as we go forward and have all the details on our website once its dialed in. Thanks
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gtainc Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: Bend, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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Quick note, we are doing this because we know there is a demand/interest for these products. The 98-04 automatics are still being built and sold without fear of becoming obsolete. So don't think you have to swap these models its just an option for those that want to. |
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bikes! Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2014 Posts: 97 Location: Central CA Coast
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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gtainc wrote: |
So these are all European models available basically everywhere but the US. We will have 5 speeds for the 92-96 5 cyl gas/4 cyl diesels and 6 speeds for the 97-04 VR6 models. These will be sold as a (kit) meaning all necessary good used parts to convert to a manual. Shifter & linkage, clutch pedal, flywheel, slave and master cyl's and of course the transaxle. The details are still being worked out and those parts that do not come with it or should be purchased new (i.e. clutch ect..)we will provide new parts or a parts list for the buyer to source. As we are still working on this, if anyone is interested please feel free to give us a call. I will update this post as we go forward and have all the details on our website once its dialed in. Thanks |
Thanks for arranging this, I'm sure there are a few of us here, and on VWVortex, who will be willing guinea pigs.
A few questions:
Will the VR6 kit use the same driveshafts as the 4 speed automatic? If not, are those items which you'll provide the appropriate part numbers for or include in the kit?
Does the kit allow the ABS and ESP to remain fully functional? |
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gtainc Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: Bend, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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At this point there seems to be some disputing info on which axles fit what. That will all be part of putting this all into (kit) form. Ive been speaking with several different Eurovan aficionado's and have yet to see where ESP or ABS will be effected. Once we get a test rig converted and tested we will know more. Signs point to everything working thou. |
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bikes! Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2014 Posts: 97 Location: Central CA Coast
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gtainc Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: Bend, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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We have seen that of the few conversions that have been done some seem to have that issue and some don't. What all the factors are that seem to create that issue seem to be still unknown. With the help of a few other shops I believe we can come up with a work around. Once again this won't be a quick thing but we are going to do our best and time will tell how hard or easy it might be. |
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bikes! Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2014 Posts: 97 Location: Central CA Coast
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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Thanks for the reply! It will be interesting to see how this develops. |
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Xtremjeepn Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2012 Posts: 1539 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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_________________ http://www.cavevan.com |
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gtainc Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: Bend, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:11 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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Yup, already been in touch. Cole is happy to be a fellow guinea pig. |
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E_Swift Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:50 am Post subject: Re: Eurovan auto to manual transaxle conversions |
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Just across the cascades from you...
Have 3 T4 westies (a 93, a 99, and an 01) all ready and waiting for a cost effective conversion... |
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