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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

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What ring and pinion set did they put in your trans?
Also what 4th gear?
Your overall final drive ratio will determine what tire size is appropriate.

Also,
From looking at the little clip from CB,
I'll bet you they converted to a tye 1?
That would be smart in remote areas, because type 4 parts are rare in many places.


Yep on the Type 1.
4th Gear was stock sized. I'm not 100% on the R&P as this decisions was made almost a year ago. I'm pretty sure it was the 5.12 sorry I can't be more specific at this time.

thanks for your input, it's appreciated.

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I'm curious about the time lapse between episodes. What you presented to us at xmas 2018 was actually filmed Dec. 2017 ? So i am assuming the paint job and transmission overhaul etc was soon afterwards. That means you are long gone from North America...but you request opinions about tires that you solved 6 months ago. Geez, this is getting like a commercial rather than a travelog.
On the other hand I do enjoy your videos. Have fun


We put the dates of the filming in each episode in the description box of the YouTube video (you wont be able to see that from TS)

This episode was filmed in March 2018. Several weeks of work goes into each episodes so we had to go silent for a while whilst we did the restoration (still on going) filmed and edited these videos. It will probably get a little closer to real time when we are actually traveling, as that takes less time than restoration. Please don't think of Kombi Life as a travel log, you will only be disappointed with our timeline. it's a docu-series. Smile

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...I also think that you deserve to be taken seriously and it seems more and more that you are. Thank you

I was honestly worried with your cut up high roof and you going on about showers, winches and anti-theft locks. You seem more focused on the important things now.


Cheers, yes lots to think about with this build. I know it seems that I ask random questions that seem to take no order, sorry about that Embarassed Hopefully in the end we'll end up with a solid bus that we can live in for a few years.

I do appreciate you guys always responding and giving encouragement and advice on all these topics. In many (most) situation you guys are all I have to get feedback from, so I appreciate, as always, you being there to help me by sharing your experience.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

I don't want to sound like a curmudgeon, but your alternator pulley is warped. This will cause shortened belt life, which is irritating if you have a spare, and debilitating if you don't. It will also over stress the alternator bearings. If those fail, you're in for a solid half days work to replace the alternator, if you can get one. Just like the stock Type 1 fuel injection, a shredded belt will happily destroy any components in its path, (like your crank position sensor.)

Watch the light reflection at the 10:00 position on the pulley, and the 3:00 edge of the pulley. You can see their effects by watching the belt itself shuffle around.


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I originally had that posted to the TV/travel thread, but I didn't want to mix topics. I hope your adventures are trouble-free!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

A few pics from the engine install:

Goodbye Type 4 (thanks Bill)
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Hello Type 1
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1776 Type 1, Designed and Built by Pat Downs of CB Performance
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Designed to run cool in high temps

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Mark from CB Performance was in charge of installing the Gen4 EFI

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CB Performance were a bunch of legends, really! What an outfit they are.

I just posted a video in the other thread showing how they built this 96HP engine and so any of you airheads that want to geek out on that with me, should check it out.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...p;start=60

If anyone wants to read about the specs, how much it cost and a story about why I managed to blow up so many engines and what I will be doing differently this time - check out this article:
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I don't want to sound like a curmudgeon, but your alternator pulley is warped.....


To be honest, we did have some issues with the pully shortly after leaving. The alternator ate it (rounded the hole), I did have a spare and replaced it on the road. Well spotted. I can't say for certain if this wobble was present after the engine was installed and the fan belt adjusted. I'd imagine not.

After leaving CB after a few days I'd thought that fan belt was loose so tightened it. CB told me over the phone that I must have adjusted it too tight and that why it got eaten up.
I was surprised that I'd made that mistake to be honest, it's not rocket science and I've adjusted a fair few of them by now.

Let's hope that I don't ruin this engine too quickly, lord knows it cost enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

I gotta ask, I’m pretty sure I saw stock connecting rods and a non counter weighted crank in the video. Is this what you got?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

those castings are tight.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

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I gotta ask, I’m pretty sure I saw stock connecting rods and a non counter weighted crank in the video. Is this what you got?

GEN4 FI is legit and I want it!


Yes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

Little update.

I was inspired by the GoWesty Swing-Away system for Vangons so I met up with them and adapted one for the bus.

It's still work in progress but I think it will be a useful addition to the "overlanding rig"

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Slowly getting there Very Happy

If you haven't seen this weeks video (about this subject) it's on YouTube, via the link below or in the video thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...p;start=80
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

Nice. I have thought several times about how one of those swing away tire carriers would be nice to have for the Bus, but I haven't ever found a stout one or one that doesn't bolt to the sheet metal. Maybe now that they know how to build one, they'd sell them to other late bay owners! (Did/would you ask?)

I've thought about trying to make my own, as I have done a couple trailer hitches and such, but I don't know if I'm confident enough in my fabrication skills, and I don't know the proper names of the parts to try to order them. (Like the swingy hinge part, or a good latch mechanism.)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

Hi, Ben and Leah Smile Greatings from Virginia!
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Awesome stuff you are doing! Not a video of yours I haven't enjoyed living vicariously through. You both are an inspiration to so much more than the Volkswagen community and I hope the sambanistas have and continue to help keep your new ride running around the world in the best condition possible. High tops are tight! good choice. swing away bumper is also a nice choice. I think I am most intrigued to see how everything holds up to the punishment of your journey. I know you will take the time to wonderfully document your trails, trials and tribulations as you've done in your 'must see' hasta Alaska docuseries Smile Some of the comments from the peanut gallery in this thread compel me to relay that I have spent so much time watching your videos over the years that, even though we've never met, you feel like a friend...both of you...and people do stuff for friends...sometimes or usually for free if they can. like so many incredible people that helped you enroute to alaska, et.al. U do U and everything b cool Smile fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly and h8trz gonna h8 Sad...In today's entertainment environment it is refreshing to see talented individuals share what appears to be more realistic than anything industrially produced. plus you're not bound by motion picture regulations, etc. so you go places they can't or won't. at the end of the day you are sharing your life on a platform open to, and as, real people, who as a norm dont have "movie star" armored skin. as far as I'm concerned if someone has nothing constructive to say...they should keep thinking till they do Smile (refer back to fish gotta swim). so if my apology for their behavior is any consolation I give it profusely Smile Currently, obligations keep me from pulling up the emergency brake Anchor of Constance (my 79 Campmobile) and landsailing after you into the sunset. Alas, I am religated to enjoying your enthusiasm and mad videography skillz watching what could have been if i was following you or what could still be in the future when you're back in the USA...East coast...Washington, DC area...(I'd be honored to follow or lead you through a monuments tour in my my 79 Westy Smile )
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

Thanks for the kind words and the invite, Wish we'd had more time on the East coast! Next time we'll do a proper tour of the US. Hope y'all having a great weekend
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

Hi Ben, I’ve been enjoying your new series of Kombi Life. There’s a couple of things that have caught my eye.

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What kind of air filter are you going to be using on your trip? I’ve driven on quite a few unsealed roads and I’m always surprised how filthy the engine compartment becomes. My T3 Syncro has a factory fitted cyclone pre-filter to remove the heavier particles and make the filter element last a bit longer before it finally clogs up and requires replacement.

Cyclone pre-filters were a factory option (M153) back when T2s were new. Here’s a link to Heinz Müller’s blog on the Mann+Hummel website https://blog.mann-hummel.com/en/learning-by-doing/ Heinz helped to develop the system for VW and you will see some period photos of the prototype testing in the Sahara desert if you click on the link.

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I also worry about your deep sump. The “Journeys Under Difficult Conditions-Z4” technical pamphlet written by VW has details on the sump guards that should be fitted when used in rough conditions. You can see the guards designed for the Type 4 engine fitted to “MadMax78’s” T2 below, the guards designed for the Type 1 engine are fitted in a similar way (also notice the transmission guard too).

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Obviously you now can’t fit the factory designed sump guard and with your deep sump hanging down like it does, your sump is more vulnerable. Maybe you could fabricate some sort of skid rail like the prototype 4x4 T2 has?

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This skid rail sweps up at the tail of the vehicle and bolts onto the tow bar

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

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What kind of air filter are you going to be using on your trip?

....I also worry about your deep sump.



Hey Neil, thanks for posting.

I'm not overly stoked on the air-filter we currently have. It's fine for on-road, but is likely to be an issue offroad. We have a 40mm intake. Do you know of anything available that would bolt on that is available now?

This maybe? https://bti-tool.com/offroad-products-en/cyclone-air-filters-en.html
It's just mounting the fecker because there is no clearance -

I'm planning to get some off road "dust socks "for the filter, but would prefer something better - looked into oil bath, not 100% convinced on them.
Have read that link before, but glad you posted it here for others

I'm also not stoked on the deep sump. I agree it could cause big issues. Keeping the engine cool and lasting a long time was the objective from CB Performance, but the clearance will be an issue for us. I don't mind banging our under water tanks, but not the case.

There is a shallower option, but I'd prefer to remove it completely to be honest. Am I right in saying that the deeper sump allows for more oil capacity so it can stay cooler longer / stay good longer?
If so, are there any other means of relocating this additional oil supply somewhere else, between the pump and external oil cooler for example?

Has anyone seen a product like that? Is there any other reason for the deep sump that I haven't mentioned?

What are my options for removing it?

Cheers.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

Meddling with your sponsors creations will bring about bad blood fast. The obvious question to all these Mad Max type roads you envision is WHY? Your proposed route has roads that are accessible to most normal roads. Fly your drone into the hard to reach places and use some critical thinking to avoid trashing a very nice Bus your sponsors worked hard on.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

Manfred58sc wrote:
Meddling with your sponsors creations will bring about bad blood fast. The obvious question to all these Mad Max type roads you envision is WHY? Your proposed route has roads that are accessible to most normal roads. Fly your drone into the hard to reach places and use some critical thinking to avoid trashing a very nice Bus your sponsors worked hard on.
This! Judicious driving will save you from most problems. I drive my bus all over the damn place and am just careful about how I do it. Big ass rocks hide behind sagebrush around here. Ya just gotta watch.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

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Manfred58sc wrote:
Meddling with your sponsors creations will bring about bad blood fast. The obvious question to all these Mad Max type roads you envision is WHY? Your proposed route has roads that are accessible to most normal roads. Fly your drone into the hard to reach places and use some critical thinking to avoid trashing a very nice Bus your sponsors worked hard on.
This! Judicious driving will save you from most problems. I drive my bus all over the damn place and am just careful about how I do it. Big ass rocks hide behind sagebrush around here. Ya just gotta watch.


Yep, exactly what these guys are saying. We’ve already seen you push the limits of bus break downs with bikini chicks and Slacklining Bro. If you smarter
then Claude’s Buggies you wouldn’t need to ask The Samba. You need to follow one path. Go with OrangeZA or CB. You can’t pick and choose what you want to hear. Since CB is sponsoring you, Ride it out and don’t be a dumb dumb on the roads. OrangeZA is a legit bad ass with mad skills. But you not rocking his decal on your engine compartment. You dig?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:42 am    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

Thanks for your concern guys. My first message went out to CB Performance to ask them their thoughts on air filter upgrade options, before I posted my response here.

At the time of install, the engine throttle body had to be shortened to get the air filter to fit. Bill and I had discussed the topic at great lengh in Arizona about how I could get a snorkel into the bus somehow. There wasn't a great deal of time to seek alternative solutions, a filter that would work on road was what we installed at CB with the view of addressing the inadequacies later.

CB have recommended that I consider using a foam filter and off road dust cover to assist with cutting down the dirty air, this would certainly be an improvement and will be the minimum I will do to address the issue.

From my own research the tractor style Cyclonic air filters seem to be the most effective.

I agree with OrangeZA, the current air filter is lacking for the environments that I will (at some point) be forced to drive in.

And no guys, I will not be "Mad Maxing" this kombi. I fully recognize that it has it's limitations, but the truth is, this isn't Kansas anymore - there are some places that will have extended dust roads, and I wouldn't be doing my due diligence if I didn't investigate a more suitable product to protect the rings where I am going.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

foam filter is a good idea as it is easily washable, buy two and keep one clean to fit and then wash the other and then you don't have to wait for it to dry before continuing.

definitely consult CB at all stages of changing the components they fitted though(sounds like you are already are)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

I don't think it's a case of OrangeZA or CB, why can't we have both? Smile I agree, CB Performance put this engine together and so they are best placed to advise what can or can't be done to this engine in order to make it more compatible with your travels.

Having travelled in Southern Africa, Australasia, Eastern Europe and into Russia I have to say that many of the "normal roads" in these areas are unsealed and/or pretty rough. I was astounded by the number of gaudy blinged out Hummer H1s and Mercedes G-wagens I came across in Russia, the super rich over there generally don't buy supercars because they don't have good enough roads to drive them on. I think the same can be said of other countries outside of Western Europe and North America.

Even where I live on the west coast of Scotland, only the main road around the peninsula is sealed and that is only one car wide with passing places. Not a year goes by when I don't have to help someone out with a cracked or bashed engine sump, the last one was a Jeep fitted with the VM turbo diesel engine, the owner reckons he kicked up a rock on one of the side roads, it's easily done.

As I wrote in my post last night, VW recommended fitting guards or protection plates to the transmission and the engine

Volkswagen Z4 - Journeys under difficult conditions, August 1984 Edition wrote:


Additional equipment

(for journeys in countries in group 2)

a - Components

- Air cleaner for dusty countries (cyclone filter) 1)
Available on new vehicles under M.No. 156 – Installation – pages 20 - 37.

- Reinforcements, protection plates and stone guard equipment - for installation see pages 17 - 27.


- Strong roof rack

- Additional vehicle jack socket on Front of vehicle - When changing tyres without the assistance of a workshop (as recommended for the Transporter on page 14) a suitable bracket for the vehicle jack should be installed on the front bumper of front vehicles on account of the smaller ground clearance

- Bracket for fuel cans.

Note:

On journeys in trackless areas the driving resistance and thus fuel consumption can increase by up to 50%.

- Loud double-tone horn (particularly recommended for journeys in dusty areas).

- Oil pressure gauge and oil temperature gauge.

- Sleeping facility
(Volkswagen Transporter e.g. Westfalia folding seat as
Is standard in the Campmobile).

- Check all weather strips in the passenger compartment; they should be in perfect condition in order to prevent ingress of dust.

1) Sand and dust are very dangerous for the engine when drawn in with the air for combustion. Together with the oil in the engine they act as a grinding paste and very quickly cause excessive wear. Before going to regions where there is a lot of sand and dust we recommend therefore that cyclone air filters are fitted.


VW still provide the engine guards through their Classic Parts division

Part number 113 100 805 https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/en/catalog/product/view/id/14920/s/abdeckung-b42d14/
Part number 113 100 806 https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/en/abdeckung-f62a09.html

Below is a copy of the VW drawing for constructing the transmission guard which I found on the late Michael Knappmann's VW Bulli site http://www.michaelknappmann.de:
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The engine and transmission guards are actually the bare minimum that VW recommend, as there is another booklet called "Slip and Rock Guards for Volkswagen Type 2, Group:Z16" for Transporters that will be used in our Mad Max, dystopian future. You can see a copy of the German version here with plans on how to make all the guards: http://www.michaelknappmann.de/bulli/michaelk/vw_bus_d/z16_3.72/frame.html

I think this all establishes that VW thought the Transporter's engine could do with a little extra protection. Ben can't fit the VW guards to the bottom of his engine because of the aftermarket deep sump and despite whatever advantages the it offers, the main disadvantage is that it makes the engine more vulnerable to accidental damage. I never once said he should remove it, I merely attempted to highlight a potential issue and proposed a means of mitigating it, a skid rail like the T2 4x4 and T3 syncro.

As you suggested in your reply Ben, the deeper sump provides greater oil capacity, so there is a greater reserve before the oil becomes saturated by contaminants or damaged by heat. They can also help reduce oil starvation in hard cornering/braking when the oil surges to one side of the sump. Also the greater surface area of the sump will help with oil cooling.

Air filter - similar to your BTI Cyclone filter and in honour of the work Heinz Müller did, how about this Mann+Hummel Piclon with a removable dust collector (so it doesn't discharge into your engine bay)? https://www.krone-filter.de/assets/files/datasheet-en/air-cleaners/Piclon/Piclon.pdf available here in the UK https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Brands/BrandSpecific/Mann/FMH-4504392304. Of course, I'd consult with CB Performance to see if any of the Piclon models are suitable.

You'd have to mount it to the side of your engine and fabricate some ducting to the 40mm intake.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:27 am    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

Colorado and Wyoming aren’t Kansas either... Cool You might be surprised where I’ve driven my unmodified 14” wheel bus. I’m sure you’ll settle on a good path.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: Overlanding a VW Bus Around The World?! Reply with quote

OrangeZA thank you for posting. I too followed your adventures and was inspired by your build.

I would think at a minimum a rail or plate to protect your underside is warranted.

This is the extreme and top of the game interest and engineering VW had to offer at the time. Twisted Evil Cool

http://www.michaelknappmann.de/bulli/michaelk/vw_bus_d/z16_3.72/frame.html
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