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dubstar
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"I have to disagree with 67 as there are no reverse lights in any of the pictures but I would guess between 64 and 66"
I initially thought the same, but looked it up and reminded myself that reverse lights were introduced midway through '67...
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Are 9 window buses rare? Cargo bus with extra windows pu |
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The back hatch wider than the engine lid indicates 64-67
The paddle door handle for the front door indicates mid 66 model year through 67
You can't see the hatch or engine lid latches, which would narrow the production date down.
I can't see a chrome cover for the gas door latch. That may be because of the focus, or because it is not there. If it has the chrome cover, it would be 66 or earlier. Without, it is 67.
Reverse lights were standard for N American spec buses as of part way through the 67 model years. I believe they were still an option in euro spec buses, even early bays might not have them.
So, lack of reverse lights means nothing.
66 buses also have pointed bumpers.
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[quote="DannoT"]
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Thanx for the info guys!
Can you identify the year of the bus?
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has pointed bumpers front and rear, its a 67 |
I have to disagree with 67 as there are no reverse lights in any of the pictures but I would guess between 64 and 66 |
early '67 don't have reverse light it's a mid year change
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Is that some sort of airdam under the bumper??
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mrjobe
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[quote="DannoT"]
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Thanx for the info guys!
Can you identify the year of the bus?
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has pointed bumpers front and rear, its a 67 |
I have to disagree with 67 as there are no reverse lights in any of the pictures but I would guess between 64 and 66 |
67's came in both formats. It depends on month weather or not they had them.
my old 67 panel w/ lights
my old 67 double cab w/o lights
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| Is that some sort of airdam under the bumper?? |
Yes or a front spoiler as we like to call it...
It was probl made by my dad, and maybe the rear scoop too, altough you could buy scoop like these years ago..
I may have seen something like that in a Street Machine (UK mag) or HOT ROD as both had plenty of vw ads and articles...
My dad also made the front spoiler on his next car a Beetle..
This one
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EmpiGT
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[quote="mrjobe"]
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Thanx for the info guys!
Can you identify the year of the bus?
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has pointed bumpers front and rear, its a 67 |
I have to disagree with 67 as there are no reverse lights in any of the pictures but I would guess between 64 and 66 |
67's came in both formats. It depends on month weather or not they had them.
my old 67 panel w/ lights
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Can't be a 67 it has slash front and rear bumpers.............
As posted earlier 66 and 67 had pointed bumpers. even some 65's came factory with a pointed rear and a slash front. In the before windows cut in pic It looks to have the gas flap lock so I guess it's a 66. |
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VolksFire
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Im gonna say the bus is a 66, as I can see what appears to be an indent under the rear hatch to assist in opening. This went away on 67 models when they got a finger tab latch. Also, regarding the reverse light comment, being that its a euro spec model, it wouldnt have reverse lights even if it was a 67.
Clearly we can see in that one pic that the bus was originally a panel. Its not the Angola spec 9 window like the red and white one pictured. The bus in question was not a factory window bus. It was a panel that was hacked. Simple. And again, its a 66.
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[quote="DannoT"]
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Thanx for the info guys!
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has pointed bumpers front and rear, its a 67 |
I have to disagree with 67 as there are no reverse lights in any of the pictures but I would guess between 64 and 66 |
Plenty of 67s don't have reverse lights. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Are 9 window buses rare? Cargo bus with extra windows pu |
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My father had in the 70s a 9w bus, are these rare?
The bus is sadly scrapped long time ago 
I think this pic is taken in 78' or 79', me, born in early 76' are standing on the right side in the pc 
My late dad regetted the sale of the bus the rest of his life
Earlyer on the bus was either gray or light blue...
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HOLY SHIT, the lady sitting on the left in the first picture looks just like my mother!!! She lived in Sweden and had friends everywhere. Blew both mine and my wifes mind seeing the pic!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Are 9 window buses rare? Cargo bus with extra windows pu |
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| HOLY SHIT, the lady sitting on the left in the first picture looks just like my mother!!! She lived in Sweden and had friends everywhere. Blew both mine and my wifes mind seeing the pic! |
I know Ronnie this is wierd I looked just like the little boy! I was born in October of 76 and have never been to norway. I don't even remember starting this thread. 
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Caprinut
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Hehe..... Maybe we look the same today
I have seen pics before on the web that looks like my grandmother and my mom
Funny stuff
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Merlin
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Cool old pics of your family's bus.
In fact, a factory nine window bus is very rare. Here is one, originally exported to Angola:
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Consider me educated. Learn something new every day.
...still reckon it's a hack though.
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| I have to disagree with 67 as there are no reverse lights in any of the pictures but I would guess between 64 and 66 |
That was not a worldwide feature.  I've come across '67s without, with - and with two (one per side).
As an addendum, dubstar, I have an early '67 ambulance (OCT '66). It has a reverse light. I'm not sure whether it was an ambulance feature or not though.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: Are 9 window buses rare? Cargo bus with extra windows pu |
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| splitpile wrote: |
HOLY SHIT, the lady sitting on the left in the first picture looks just like my mother!!! She lived in Sweden and had friends everywhere. Blew both mine and my wifes mind seeing the pic! |
Comparison pictures or it didn't happen |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Are 9 window buses rare? Cargo bus with extra windows pu |
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On my screen the left side windows look taller than in other pics. |
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Caprinut
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Good spotted!
Maybe tall ones on one side and not so tall on the other??
I know my dad used the things he had axess to, he had not alot of money... |
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rod_vw
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Are 9 window buses rare? Cargo bus with extra windows put in |
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Sorry to drag up such an old thread.
Is there any more info on a nine window split bus?
I'm being asked about a RHD one that has all the hallmarks of a 1962 Split Screen but has only two windows each side behind the front doors. Obviously two are in doors (left side) that could easily have been changed but without personal inspection the other two look 'factory'.
Australian or South African (Brazilian) perhaps?
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I have to disagree with 67 as there are no reverse lights in any of the pictures but I would guess between 64 and 66 |
Reverse lights were only made standard as of mid 1967 model year.
Dad had a 1963 non-sunroof deluxe that he always regretted letting it go to the scrapper back in the late 1970s. Had traveled across the USA from Seattle to S. coast of Texas so many times in that old bus....
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:12 am Post subject: Re: Are 9 window buses rare? Cargo bus with extra windows put in |
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Some firetrucks had extra windows in the back. Usually where the third window on a kombi would be. These were not hacks.
I have also heard, that VW offered panels for retrofitting single windows. Unfortunately I was not able to find them in my parts list.
The retrofitted windows on the bus in this thread were just cut in to the panels and not recessed like the factory style windows. This was a common thing done back in the days.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:38 am Post subject: Re: Are 9 window buses rare? Cargo bus with extra windows put in |
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Hacking the windows was very popular specially in Finland in the sixties, as with the high tax on the passenger cars, you could import a van without the tax and add more seating after two years of use. Every seat row had to have window on each side as a emergency exit. Hack jobs on vans were made professionally even by the VW dealers at the time.
And for the reverse lights, they were only on US spec cars and ambulances. European '67 only had them with an option. Just like Clara has stated above. |
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