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Team WorldTour Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 2426 Location: Der Vaterland
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:22 pm Post subject: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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Hello all!
Here we are on Holiday, and the van starts acting up. We drive 250km with no problems. Then, as we get close to Burg Frankenstein, the van begins to hesitate.
Driving normal, then loss of power. The motor is still turning (as it's still in gear). If I push the Gas or not, it makes no matter. No change to how the motor sounds.
It happens sporatically, as we drove. I stopped and drained the fuel filter thinking it was water in the fuel. This didn't change a thing.
The first fuel station we found, I put in 10 liters Super Plus, then 24 liters of Diesel (the shop didn't have any alcohol).
On the way back to the hotel (an hours drive), it only happened once more. Naturally, it happened [i]right[/] after I told Mrs. WT that 'I think that did it. Problem solved'!
On a side note, I did check the battery (I have a volt meter), and it read 14.3v. I decided that this means it's not the fuel shut-off solenoid.
Besides, as far as I know, those don't funciton intermittently. They either work or they don't.
Please feel free to armchair diagnose this. I'm out on Holiday for two more days, and I will update with more issues as they present themselves. _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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iulian Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 33 Location: Bucharest, Romania
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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Vacuum in the fuel tank, plugged breather hoses with ice/dirt? Would explain why it did function for a while after fuel station stop |
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Gnarlodious Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2013 Posts: 2323 Location: Adobe Jungle USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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The most likely cause is crud in your fuel tank outlet or clogged fuel filter. Check the clear tube for bubbles, that is a sure sign. _________________ Vanagon ’83 diesel AAZ w/Giles injection, 5spd 4.57R&P+TBD and a '78 diesel Rabbit |
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 2426 Location: Der Vaterland
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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Vacuum sounds most likely. Tank was cleaned two years ago. Had a problem with ventilation once before.
I checked the clear lines as well, and they were bubble free.
Thanks!
EDIT- Does anyone have a part number for the fuel tank vents?
EDIT 2- Nevermind. Found, ordered. _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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Gnarlodious Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:12 am Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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Some years ago I got a tankful of bad diesel. Van ran real crappy and had to change filters 3 times to get it cleared out.
So even if you think your filter is clean its worth changing because its the cheapest fix. _________________ Vanagon ’83 diesel AAZ w/Giles injection, 5spd 4.57R&P+TBD and a '78 diesel Rabbit |
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17155 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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Has the engine been adapted for a strictly mechanical pump or is it still electronic? If mechanical, how are you controlling the boost? If electrical, have you connected your laptop with the VCDS software running? _________________ ☮️ |
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 2426 Location: Der Vaterland
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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Purely mechanical.
Boost is controled by the...., um..... vacuum tube?
I replaced it a while back.
On a side note, drove it 50km today. Over mountains, down hills, full throttle, coasting. Not once did it trip up or stall. Also, first thing today, I found a liter of 'Brennspiritus'. No, it's not a concoction from Harry Potter. Literally, it is 'burning alcohol'. Alcohol fuel. Alcohol binds with water. I plan on running the tank down as far as I dare (¼ tank) to see if the problem resurfaces. My first impression was water in the fuel, and I stand by that until evidence to the contrary presents itself. _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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Gnarlodious Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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I don’t know where you live but keep in mind that a clogged filter is affected by changes in weather due to the viscosity of diesel fuel in cold weather. If you add a liquid thinner it also reduces the viscosity in cold weather. A diagnostic is to pour hot water over your filter, if the trouble stops then likely your filter is clogged.
Vacuum tube? I prefer LDA=Ladedruckanreicherung=boost pressure enrichment.
You should know! But non-Germans probably say “aneroid”. _________________ Vanagon ’83 diesel AAZ w/Giles injection, 5spd 4.57R&P+TBD and a '78 diesel Rabbit |
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 2426 Location: Der Vaterland
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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So, I have new info!
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US WAS WRONG!
Wife got sick last night from bad Indian food, spent the night hugging the bowl.
Today's activities were cancelled to head home early. Trouble starts at about ¾ tank. Since we are on the Autobahn, we call for a tow.
Get dropped off at the nearest fuel station. Top up, drive on. Problems start again. This goes on for about three hours (we were only an hour and a half from home!). During this time, the fuel filter was changed.
Not trusting our luck, we stayed off the Autobahn. Out in the middle of nowhere, we died again. For good. Nothing I did seemed to work. We call again for help. This time, ADAC sends out a mechanic, not a tow truck.
Mechanic has a Multi-Meter. Mechanic says the power to the fuel solenoid is intermittent. Mechanic says maybe it's the ignition switch. Mechanic hot-wires the solenoid to the battery. Van starts right up.
New switch has been ordered. Multi-meter will now be permanent part of tool kit.
Thank you to everyone that tried to help me. I'm sure we have all learned something here. _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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Update- Switch swapped.
Switch swapped a second time due to faulty part.
New switch works just fine.
Now I have a fuel issue. Smoking engine, hot diesel smell, drops on hatch door, small puddle underneath....
I'll work the issue, and start a new thread if need be.
Cheers!
Nico _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:27 am Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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HOLY HANDBRAKE, BATMAN!
Sorry, having new issues, and during the Search found out I didn't close this thread correctly!
As it turns out, the ignition switch wasn't the issue at all. The wire for the fuel solenoid was loose! I redid the wire end with a new shoe, and now it works just fine!
The ignition switch was a red herring. _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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Then, as we get close to Burg Frankenstein, the van begins to hesitate.
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I'm guessing that one of you was sneezing at the time, and it sounded a bit like this:
"Frau-Blücher!"
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:20 am Post subject: Re: AAZ Hesitation While Driving |
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Well, good news and bad news.
I was in the shop all day yesterday, and got a few things done.
First, on the way to the shop, the van demonstrated to very same symptoms from our holiday.
So, I dropped the skid plate, Loosened the turbo, and stuck the missing gasket in (I didn't have it in time for the Holiday), and the one for the exhaust as well.
I took out the engine carrier on the intake side so I could mount the Brickwerks intake. Um, it didn't fit.... (I'm running a K-24 turbo, not the stock K-14)
The outer diameter of the intake hose and the outer diameter of the turbo matched.
Also, the bypass hose would be pushed right up against the exhaust.
(Just an aside- Yes, I firmly believe it was the rubber elbow collapsing. When I removed it, you could see where it had collapsed around the metal bit I had stuck in there!)
So, in a fit of desperation, I cut the Brickwerks hose up, used plenty of WD40, and stuck the silicone hose inside the rubber bits.
I did this for the lower elbow and also the upper elbow from the air cleaner.
Also, I changed my engine and transmission oils. I am using two magnetic plugs, and I don't like the look of either of them:
The one on the right is the fill plug, left is the drain.
I last did this in December.
Anyway, I drove home the same way (40km of Autobahn), and I have to say, the problem was solved. I was able to get top speed from all four gears, I had plenty of power, and saw no black smoke at full throttle. _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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