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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:15 pm    Post subject: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

I’m scratching my head here and need some help. After letting my car sit for a few days I went to start it. It started fine and ran for about 10 seconds and just died. It won’t restart. I let it sit for about half and hour and tried it again. Did the same thing. I also noticed the fuel filter had no fuel in it. When I crank it and it starts for those few seconds it fills backup, but then after a while it back drains again.
Background on the car. 66 Beetle. Brazilian 30 pict 1. 205t distributor. Early style fuel pump.
Any ideas or thing to look at would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Todd
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

Sounds like a fuel issue. Can you keep it running if you spray shots of carb cleaner at the carb opening?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

I haven’t tried that but I will. I’m wondering if my fuel pump is going south. It the old style diaphragm type.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

Tugmaster wrote:
I haven’t tried that but I will. I’m wondering if my fuel pump is going south. It the old style diaphragm type.



Be careful if your fuel pump is going south. Sometimes, when they fail, fuel ends up inside the engine, diluting the oil and killing the bearings. If you suspect the fuel pump, test it and get it replaced asap. Check your oil for fuel contamination as well. If in doubt, change your oil - cheap insurance.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

I was just thinking the exact same thimg! It’s been pretty cold up here and I’m wondering if the extreme cold made the diaphragm in the fuel pump go bad. I have no idea of the age of the fuel pump. I agree oil dilution is VERY bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

Have ya cleaned the fuel tank "sock" filter/screen in the past decade or so?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

I just changed it’s few months ago.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

Awright, kool.
Can ya look-over the entire fuel line path from stem-to-stern?
Check under the tank, beside/above the transaxle, etc - all common places to insert another inline filter.
It's pretty common for POs to hide one in these locations, & they can be found in very krusty/neglected/clogged condition.
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Enough clue..Whats that mean?
OldIronSpine wrote:
I'm not sure how compression works.
Turbos don't produce torque, they produce HP. Instead of torque.
The real problem with NA engines is you don't hear the nice whine of the turbo as it spools up.
Before I commit, I'm going to do more research because I don't really know what piston rings are.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

Question - is the positioning of the fiber washer/seal correct in the picture? Goes on the bottom of the feed tube and not between the filter and the tube?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

I got it figured out. Turns out the carb float was full of fuel. It was causing the engine to flood and stall shortly after startup. Replaced the float. Runs like a champ know! Sometimes it’s the simplest thing. No fuel smell in the oil so I’m thinking I’m good. Thanks to all for your advice. Todd
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Car starts but won’t stay running. HELP!! Reply with quote

Good show here.
A porous or leaky float is a rather common fault, & overlooked 90% of the time during a carb rebuild.
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I'm not sure how compression works.
Turbos don't produce torque, they produce HP. Instead of torque.
The real problem with NA engines is you don't hear the nice whine of the turbo as it spools up.
Before I commit, I'm going to do more research because I don't really know what piston rings are.
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