1968 Deluxe Build

Trashman · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

I haven't heard that before. I've definitely heard of header wrap retaining moisture causing premature rust. I've ran header wrap before on water-cooled cars before for years without any cracking issues. Have you had issues with it causing cracking TDCTDI?
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Trashman · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Just read a post from Wild Bill seeing his rather extreme example of header failure due to wrap. I think I'll be removing the wrap. Thanks TDCTDI from getting me to look into it more.
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airschooled · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

I might entertain a straight stretch of wrap on manifolds 2 & 4 directly under the apron. Nothing like checking your oil at a gas stop and burning your forearm on the apron…

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Spike0180 · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:50 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

TDCTDI · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:37 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

I primarily saw it on dedicated track cars, the wrap would isolate heat on the pipes & cause the metal to fail at a molecular level, the headers would literally crumble by tapping them with your keys after a few events.

https://www.centuryperformance.com/exhaust-header-heat-wraps-do-not-use.html

Trashman · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:37 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

TDCTDI · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:55 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Making your own heat shield, or repurposing one from another car, is better in that there is still an air gap between the exhaust AND the apron.
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Spike0180 · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:33 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

something like a TDI or 1.8t from early-mid 2000 vw's have easily accessible heat shields to grab. And they are to keep turbo heat down too, so should be pretty good. More than enough for standard exhaust heat.
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Trashman · Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Removed the wrap today. Almost wasn't worth it getting covered in fiberglass again. You live and you learn I guess.

Since my engine is trans is raised, there are some areas of the header that are closer to the rear apron than stock would be. Next longer drive I'll take a temp reading of the apron. Then I'll compare it to another reading after installing some sort of heat shield (whatever I can fit in the smaller space).
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Trashman · Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Just been driving around with no issues and been working slowly on the new engine. Took a few pics the other day. Here's one of them.

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Manfreds78bay · Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Wow this is a great thread. Just caught up on it. Excellent writing skills as well. I had no clue about low riders until I read through this. I was never a big fan because who wants a ridged suspension system? I thought it would ride like a hardtail motorcycle.

Your system is great! I had no idea how these modern system work. Thank you for the education.

The fact you did this work without a garage is amazing. You need to start your own shop pronto.
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Trashman · Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:21 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Thanks for the kind words! Most people doing things in the same vein as me seem to all be afraid to post on the Samba because of the crowd that's on here. I quite like the Samba for all it has to offer in terms of information and community, so I though it needed a little more diversity in the sorts of things people were doing to their buses. I figure most people won't take any of this as a how-to or anything, but I at least hope that it's entertaining and maybe my thread is making people appreciate extremely lowered buses (done properly) a little bit more.

In other news, some of the bigger vw shows around here are coming up in the next couple months, the soonest being Kelley Park, so I've been trying to finish off some jobs that were all almost done. So far I've got a little more of the wood paneling done and I've made and welded in a doghouse to cover the beam since it is now in the passenger compartment and there is a big hole in the floor. I think it's turning out pretty sweet. Picture update soon to come :2gunfire:
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notchboy · Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:50 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Bring on that heater love. It might be a hard thing to finish since you haven't needed it since like a week ago Laughing

I went to a Doughnuts & Cars thing this last weekend and ran the heater all the way there. us was nice and warm at 6 am cruising down the highway. Cool

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Trashman · Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:01 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Hahaha I know. I put in a little work on the fuel tank for it the other day. Our winter in Santa Cruz has been rainy, just not very cold so the incentive hasn't been too high to finish it. The ducting is going to be tough since I have to make some custom elbows out of sheet metal.
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panel · Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:14 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Trashman .........can you post a better view of your outer tie rod ends and what you did there? Is it all custom or have you purchased parts etc ?
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notchboy · Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:34 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Its just going under the buddy seat right?
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Trashman · Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

panel · Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

K thx!

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Trashman · Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:04 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Got the doghouse for the beam finished up the other day. Still debating on whether or not to cut the walkthru mat to just cover the back 8 or so inches of the walkthru that's still flat, or to trim the sides of it so it would just lay on top of the doghouse but end where it starts curving back down in the front, or just to leave it alone and ditch the mat entirely.

The access panel on it works nice but I still need to put a bit of weather stripping around the perimeter of it.

Here it is, ba-da-bing ba-da-boom

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airschooled · Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:17 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe Build

Looking good!

What about two mats discreetly melded together?

Or are you like me, and a total wizard in one medium but a chump in another? I can't do shit with metal but plastics do whatever I tell them to… Laughing

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