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ebenasky Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2011 Posts: 211 Location: Helena, MT
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:39 pm Post subject: New fuel pump with regulator |
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My daily driver started having problems and I determined that it was my fuel pump. I bought a new one and after checking The Samba, I realized I needed to have a fuel regulator. I also determined that my local parts house only had the crappy ones.
I found one on Jegs as part #555-15911. It was a bit cheaper than the Holly version. It seems to be working just fine.
I realize that my picture has the plastic filter that I will be replacing with the metal filter from my local parts store.
I thought it would be nice to help with folks that need to figure out where to get this thing mounted.
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: New fuel pump with regulator |
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Honestly I’ve been building engines a long time and never needed a regulator. I see you have the non rebuildable type but it’s still possible to regulate pressure. Lots of threads here on fuel pumps
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: New fuel pump with regulator |
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I also do not have a fuel pressure regulator on either of my two VWs.
One has a fuel pump (with circlips on the horizontal pivot rod) from O'Reilly, and I tested that at 3.2 psi
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: New fuel pump with regulator |
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You DON'T need all that extra "stuff" to obtain the correct fuel pressure. A restored German Pierburg fuel pump with the correct OEM Effbe kit will have fuel pressure right at 3psi. I know this because I've rebuilt hundreds of them. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5481 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: New fuel pump with regulator |
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What are the current good choices for alternator style pumps? I like the look of the old pumps and the quality of a rebuildable pump. However, I have an alternator engine and was wondering what options I have, both modern mechanical and rebuilt. Heck, I'd consider an electric pump even, it it was built to the correct pressure (no regulator needed) and had a good reputation for reliability. Just fitting engine tins today and the quality of modern replacement parts is, once again, less than inspiring. Intake and exhaust are next items... _________________
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16758 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: New fuel pump with regulator |
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Related, but not. Finding the Brosals that I really like (with correct pressure) seem to last about 7 years with 10% ethanol. Anybody have any thoughts and a better alternative OR are the rebuild kits for Pierburgs good for alcohol? _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: New fuel pump with regulator |
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To the OP I applaud your effort to make a substandard part work. It seems we are flooded with parts which need tweaking to work, thats too bad. For those of you on a budget with a little time to spare may I suggest buying factory core parts and rebuilding them yourself using the correct kits. Once again you took a bad situation and found a solution, good on you. |
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bluebus86 Banned
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: New fuel pump with regulator |
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EVfun wrote: |
What are the current good choices for alternator style pumps? I like the look of the old pumps and the quality of a rebuildable pump. However, I have an alternator engine and was wondering what options I have, both modern mechanical and rebuilt. Heck, I'd consider an electric pump even, it it was built to the correct pressure (no regulator needed) and had a good reputation for reliability. Just fitting engine tins today and the quality of modern replacement parts is, once again, less than inspiring. Intake and exhaust are next items... |
I've sold both square top and dome top German Pierburg rebuildable fuel pumps to folks running alternators. The last guy reported it bolted right on. I know others had to lift up their fan shroud and alternator an inch or two, put the pump on then put the fan shroud back in place to install it. But, they do fit even with alternators.
The OE Effbe rebuild kits sold today have diaphragms designed to withstand ethanol. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3899 Location: Seattle, WA
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ebenasky Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2011 Posts: 211 Location: Helena, MT
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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:14 am Post subject: Re: New fuel pump with regulator |
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I have plans to rebuild my old pump but I needed to have my vehicle up and running now as this is my daily driver. When the weather gets warm enough (I'm in Montana), I will take the time to do the rebuild and put it back on. I prefer to use as many of the original parts as I can.
When I first got this aftermarket pump and was reading about pumps on the Samba, I checked the pressure with my gauge and it was pushing about 4 pounds and I experienced the problems of hard starting. Now it is running 2.5 and runs great.
One thing about that regulator is that you need to dump the "plug" is came with and install a brass plug. Also, as I did, make sure your sealant is OK for fuel.
This is a great site and I appreciate all the help and assistance that the members give each other. _________________ "I don't fix 'em to look at 'em, I fix them to drive."
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5481 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: New fuel pump with regulator |
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Thanks for the review. It looks like another pump with excessive pressure for a stock carb. _________________
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