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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:42 pm Post subject: Black Betty |
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Well... it’s time for me to descend upon the Oval forums with a 1957 Euro that posted in the “as found” threads a few years ago.
I’ll be bastardizing it by putting it on a 1970 pan from another project...
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=625659&highlight=
That donated quite a few parts to The Ghiapet...
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=691306&highlight=
Black Betty will be a Class II/Kommandeurwagen style build.
Here’s the inspiration for the name...
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Black Betty had a child, the damn thing gone wild...
Black Betty’s child was just too long. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it.
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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So, since I always seem to start my builds with the front suspension, I grabbed a beam that I had laying around & proceeded to hack it & tack it.
I used a pipe cutter to score a line around the upper tube.
Then I used a die grinder to cut the center spring clamp out.
Then I welded an adjuster in.
I took the trailing arms & pressed new ball joints in.
I had set of hook & rod limiters... without the rods, so I snagged an old driveshaft & made some new rods...
Then I determined where to locate the rods...
Then I drilled some 3/4" holes in the shock towers & welded the rods in place. (Apparently I forgot to take pics of this step.) _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it.
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7951 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:44 am Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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that's going to look cool - but watch out for the originality police! _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect... |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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finster wrote: |
that's going to look cool |
Thanks, I hope you’ll enjoy the progress.
finster wrote: |
...but watch out for the originality police! |
They can stop me at any time, my current asking price is $5,000 as is. Any takers?
Unfortunately, there is no path for me to acquire a title for the existing pan. The car sat in a barn for 30-40 years & rodents nested under the back seat & the VIN# is no longer discernible so it will require a pan swap anyway. Since I have a good pan, with new pan halves & title, this is the route that I’m gonna take. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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Anywho, here is more of the modifications to the beam...
Here, I used my die grinder to carve a swath through the seam on the shock towers so I can seam weld them. I do this to clean all of the rust & grime out of the seam to get a better weld.
After the first pass with the welder...
Then I knock it down with a grinder.
And I lay down another bead.
With a final clean up with the grinder.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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While the spring packs were out, I could set the limits with the hooks to prevent ball joint breakage.
Full droop...
Full compression...
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:30 am Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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Today, I flipped the beam and continued seam welding the towers.
Then, in anticipation of some Thing Y-braces, I grabbed a section of 2” steel stock & trimmed off a couple of pieces.
And then glued them to the beam.
The tow hook on the passenger side got in the way, so I carefully cut the rear part section off.
Then bent it out of the way so I could weld the other Y-brace tab on.
Here’s what it looks like now...
That concludes today’s “Ch..ch...ch...changes, turn & face the strange, changes...” _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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Today, I spent waaay too much time trying to clean the undercoating, grime, & old paint off the beam. Then I decided to break the monotony & grab one of the spindles & start making gussets.
First, I dug up another section of steel stock & cut a piece of cardboard the same width.
Then I trimmed the cardboard to a close proximity of the shape to fill the gap between the steering arm & the upper balljoint.
Once satisfied, I transferred that to the steel stock.
Then I cut it to shape...
After whittling it down a bit more, I got it to fit.
And I tacked it into place.
And fused them together.
Once it cooled for a bit, I brushed it off & decided to share it with y'all.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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This afternoon, I used the same template & carved out another gusset & married it to the spindle.
And then, after brushing off the chunky stuff, so as to not contaminate the blast media, I introduced one of the spindles to the wind tunnel.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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Nothing exciting today, I just got one of the spindles painted.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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Today, I made the second one look like the first one.
Then I turned my attention to trying to clean up the brake backing plates.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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metz Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2005 Posts: 280 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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Another TDCTDI thread – sweet! _________________ 68 panel
64 ghia coupe |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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metz wrote: |
Another TDCTDI thread – sweet! |
Thank you sir!
I got one of the brake backing plates cleaned...
Primed...
Painted & assembled to a spindle...
Sorry, I’m not gonna geek out over rusty bolt heads.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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nice lookin car _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" |
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9653 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: Black Betty |
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Black Betty will be a Class II/Kommandeurwagen style build. |
Since the K-Wagen had 5-lug wheels and your '70 pan has 4-lugs, will you convert to 5-lugs? Use Thing rear drums, and for the front- '67 front drums or wide-5 balljoint disc conversion?
Is Betty's body hopefully not very rusty so that you don't have to do as much repair work as on "faule Kuerbis"? |
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