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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:46 am Post subject: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Hi,
I have this wrapped up NOS divider glass from d'Ieteren in Belgium. It's trapezoidal piece of glass, from what I've read this would be for barndoor? Can anyone comfirm please? Clara?
It's 49cm wide, 17cm high and part number on the wrapping is 211.845.151
And then question number 2: should I open it?
To be honest I really didn't want to open it, it's so pretty like this. But as I will be selling it, it might be needed so anyone can see what's inside (logo's etc)?
Please see pictures:
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:35 am Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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I can't confirm the measurement but I see Clara posted a pic of a Barndoor cab divider and said it was a trapezoid here:
211.845.151 isn't in my 1955 parts book. Weird.
The part # for the cab divider glass from that book is 211.845.505
I feel like you are going to have to open it in order to sell it.
You could wait until you are paid and let the buyer back out if you open it and it is not as expected.
This allows the buyer to decide whether they want it to be opened. _________________ How to Post Photos
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EA57RHD Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:47 am Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Since I own a 53 panel, I may be a buyer providing it is the correct glass with the large SEKURIT logo.
carefully opening the package from one end may be necessary to see the contents. _________________ ----VW's in my garage----
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Maybe you can apply steam with one of those modern steam cleaners or a damp rag to soak the tape, like you would with pealing an old stamp of a postacard.
appears to be paper tape applied with water based glue.
peeling one short side open should suffice to slide the glass out.
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Just open it and save the packaging. You have already documented it with photos. The end goal would be to install it on a bus..... |
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Lind Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:45 am Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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The '50s parts list shows that for a barndoor, the rear window and the cab divider window are the same, with a different parts number than this part.
This parts number shows up in the '60s parts lists as correct for barndoor. I bet it is a replacement glass with a later logo. _________________ .
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:34 am Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Lind wrote: |
The '50s parts list shows that for a barndoor, the rear window and the cab divider window are the same, with a different parts number than this part.
This parts number shows up in the '60s parts lists as correct for barndoor. I bet it is a replacement glass with a later logo. |
Same glass? That is a mistake. The cab divider glass is smaller than the Kombi/truck/panel rear window.
The 10/53 parts list shows 211 845 505 for the cab divider and 221 845 515 for the back commercial/standard window. |
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Kais Collection vintage treasures
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:38 am Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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campingbox wrote: |
The cab divider glass is smaller than the Kombi/truck/panel rear window.
The 10/53 parts list shows 211 845 505 for the cab divider and 221 845 515 for the back commercial/standard window. |
Thanks Greg.
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Kais Collection wrote: |
campingbox wrote: |
The cab divider glass is smaller than the Kombi/truck/panel rear window.
The 10/53 parts list shows 211 845 505 for the cab divider and 221 845 515 for the back commercial/standard window. |
Thanks Greg.
So no 211 845 515 in your parts book? |
I assume you mean 151?
It’s not in the 10/53 or 4/55 books.
It is in the 7/56 book.
I expect you will find a barndoor cab divider glass with a slightly newer logo in that packaging. Cut it open, let’s see. |
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Lind Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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campingbox wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
The '50s parts list shows that for a barndoor, the rear window and the cab divider window are the same, with a different parts number than this part.
This parts number shows up in the '60s parts lists as correct for barndoor. I bet it is a replacement glass with a later logo. |
Same glass? That is a mistake. The cab divider glass is smaller than the Kombi/truck/panel rear window.
The 10/53 parts list shows 211 845 505 for the cab divider and 221 845 515 for the back commercial/standard window. |
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Does anyone have a barndoor partition glass that could get a measurement? And make a tracing for a glass cutter? |
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Kais Collection vintage treasures
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:02 am Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Ok people, I've opened the packaging:
I've also put a small video clip of the opening on my Instagram and Facebook page, for your viewing pleasure.. _________________ Insta: @kaiscollectionvt
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Lind Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:48 am Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Looks like '58ish through '61ish logos. _________________ .
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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I bet it is a replacement glass with a later logo. |
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I expect you will find a barndoor cab divider glass with a slightly newer logo in that packaging. |
Yes. It is a piece of glass made after BD production, but for a BD. But has a later logo.
The glass is the same shape, but not the same size, as the rear window. |
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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Clara wrote: |
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I bet it is a replacement glass with a later logo. |
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I expect you will find a barndoor cab divider glass with a slightly newer logo in that packaging. |
Yes. It is a piece of glass made after BD production, but for a BD. But has a later logo.
The glass is the same shape, but not the same size, as the rear window. |
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: NOS barndoor cab divider glass? |
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I pulled this partition glass with original rubber seal out of my barndoor parts stash. I almost forgot that I had it.
I believe this to be the early SEKURIT logo but there may be another with just the logo and no other markings. Anyone know for sure ?
Pictures for reference would be nice.
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