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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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I don't strip and replate my parts. I value my health and the environment more than shiny metal, but I get why others do. I use hot lemon juice to clean my distributors and parts rather than ultra sonic cleaners or other solvents. All of that saves some overhead. Call me old school, I'm ok with that. They still look good, are clean and function the way they should.
I don't work on a lot of SVDA distributors, focusing on the old cast iron and early SVA. These don't wear as frequently or rapidly as the later distributors. With some trouble spots in mind and a vacuum tester in my hand I can eliminate poor candidates before I hand over the cash at swaps. It's a bit harder to do that with the later SVDA'S and DVDA'S. The wear points are hidden under the points plate and old greasy dirt. I had a seller offer me a bin of over 60 of them a year ago, for $100. I didn't think twice! _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
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oshima Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2011 Posts: 112 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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An I going to do any damage by driving without the vacuum advance while I wait for it to come in? I’ve got the line plugged up in the meantime. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50353
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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oshima wrote: |
An I going to do any damage by driving without the vacuum advance while I wait for it to come in? I’ve got the line plugged up in the meantime. |
Nope just and engine that doesn't run as smoothly at part throttle and gets a bit worse gas mileage. With your foot in it the engine will not know the difference. |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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With a dual advance distributor you still in theory have the mechanical weights advancing the spark.You won't be advancing fully without the vacuum functioning properly. Wildthings description is the result. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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oshima wrote: |
An I going to do any damage by driving without the vacuum advance while I wait for it to come in? I’ve got the line plugged up in the meantime. |
A simple explanation is your distributor will act like a mechanical only distributor like an 009 with the vacuum canister un-hooked. It will fully mechanically advance to around 21° so you should set your timing at idle to 7.5 BTDC while the vacuum canister is disabled. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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Folks here are lucky to have folks here who restore distributors. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22671 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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I don’t have any magic in sourcing this stuff, just importing. It’s not rocket science, I just happen to have logistics people in many EU countries _________________ .ssS! |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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Here's one that may work for you. Having two mounting holes on each side it may be ok. It's a universal unit non USA withe the same advance specs as the 581.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2235000 _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse |
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Sawspa Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 173 Location: South-East Ohio
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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Hey all,
I have a 78 2.0 FI. Currently points.
Will this can work on my factory svda distributor?
https://airheadparts.com/vw-part/vacuum-advance-can-043-905-271/ _________________ 1978 Westfalia Campmobile 2.0L oversized ham heads and a stepped up cam, running points and a 76 exhaust "Lefty Loosy" |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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yes - buy several at that price. Probably not the best quality but it will work. When they are NLA they can sell upwards of $100 each. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Sawspa Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 173 Location: South-East Ohio
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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Thanks! After reading this thread I was afraid of the low price. _________________ 1978 Westfalia Campmobile 2.0L oversized ham heads and a stepped up cam, running points and a 76 exhaust "Lefty Loosy" |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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Depending upon your distributor you might have to add some holes or elongate the ones already there on the mounting tabs of aftermarket canisters in order to mount it,. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76949 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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Vacuum canister are not one size fits all. the have different part numbers for a reason.
And if you have to "make" them fit, I would suspect it's not the right one for you. _________________ Glenn
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12728 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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PSA for anybody with a fuel injected engine with a "bad vacuum advance can…" …I have seen two shops miss this in the last year alone.
Please check your EEC valve for proper function before indicting your vacuum advance mechanism. If the EEC valve is shot, (moderately common,) you will not have any functional vacuum advance, and you should disconnect and remove the Tee to the air cleaner's valve while you search for a working EEC valve air cleaner body.
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Distributor advance vacuum can replacement |
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There are only nine different German Bosch vacuum canisters listed here on TheSamba for SVDA distributors. Six of them deliver between 8-12 degrees of advance at between 180 (2)-200 (4) mm/hg. They are almost interchangeable. If you are unable to find the exact match trying one of the others is worth experimenting. Most of the advance with SVDA's is a function of the mechanical weights. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse |
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