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67 Sunroof Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2014 Posts: 1836 Location: Salisbury, MD
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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Thanks for the source on the drill bits!!!
People will appreciate that.
It’s not for the faint of heart though. You can really screw up your case if you don’t know what you are doing. |
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Busstom Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 3841 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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You know, it didn't even cross my mind earlier, but I've even purchased extended length bits at Home Depot (about a foot long). The price will be better than McMaster...but I'll tell you from experience, it won't be as good as the cheapest bit at McMaster-Carr. On the other hand, you won't be needing it to last all that long, so it's a budget-friendly option. |
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67 Sunroof Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2014 Posts: 1836 Location: Salisbury, MD
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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Well today after work I decided to tap the last hole in the case for the oil pump. I held out on it because of the angle in which the hole had to be tapped.
So, since I have been rather successful with my previous tasks, I decided to tackle it.
Here’s the hole before tapping:
I then used a 13mm gearwrench and slowly cut the case with stabil fogging oil and the 1/4” npt tap following the same angle as the oil passage.
I screwed the 1/4” plug in to make sure I could clear the lip and not have any issues with the oil pump fitting later on.
And finally I deburred the hole to make sure it was totally flush.
Making progress! My next big step would be figuring out what to do since I pulled the “restrictor plug” from the case.
John @ Aircooled.net suggested tapping the block with a regular tap but tap the #4 bearing hole with a plug with a restricted hole drilled in the middle. Sounds like a pretty good idea to me.. |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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why do you want to attempt effing up that aera tapping it&threading it, just put a knock in gally plug in it. fast effective and almost moron proof. same go's for the oil pumpkenhusen.
and when you do tap&plus the case use a brass plug!!! |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9462 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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Moron-proof, Tucker?
That case needs a serious bath! |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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yes I think even you and rock krushier can use them without fail just messen with you, you know who Im refering to. there everywhere!!!! |
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Ebel Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2015 Posts: 564 Location: New york
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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Last I heard, rock crusher might be getting something else knocked in tight holes. |
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67 Sunroof Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2014 Posts: 1836 Location: Salisbury, MD
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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mark tucker wrote: |
why do you want to attempt effing up that aera tapping it&threading it, just put a knock in gally plug in it. fast effective and almost moron proof. same go's for the oil pumpkenhusen.
and when you do tap&plus the case use a brass plug!!! |
I’ve read the debates over aluminum, steel, brass many many times...
The metallurgy of aluminum is closest to the mag case, but once the plug is in it isn’t coming out....
I bought all aluminum plugs and decided against it.
I’ve now purchased all steel plugs feeling that I have made the right decision.
And I’m told now that brass would be the better alternative.
Being new there are a dozen different ways to do the same thing. Everyone will tell you how to do it....
But they’ve never done it themselves.
Tucker, your run-on sentences and misspellings drive me crazy! BUT you know your stuff man so I can’t bust your ballz. Haha! Is it that difficult to butcher up the plugged hole? The reason I plugged the hole (even though the cb pimp doesn’t have an outlet hole) is for low pressure at idle for low oil flow. Isn’t this recommended? I appreciate the advice man.
Yeah, the case is filthy-but I may as well get all of the machining done before I get it all purdy and mess it back up again, right? |
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KROC Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2006 Posts: 359 Location: Vancouver B.C.
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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mark tucker wrote: |
why do you want to attempt effing up that aera tapping it&threading it, just put a knock in gally plug in it. fast effective and almost moron proof. same go's for the oil pumpkenhusen.
and when you do tap&plus the case use a brass plug!!! |
Hey Mark, you gotta source for the knock in plugs ? |
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5966 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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KROC wrote: |
mark tucker wrote: |
why do you want to attempt effing up that aera tapping it&threading it, just put a knock in gally plug in it. fast effective and almost moron proof. same go's for the oil pumpkenhusen.
and when you do tap&plus the case use a brass plug!!! |
Hey Mark, you gotta source for the knock in plugs ? |
Dorman sells singles, I think I've always found them at NAPA. Don't remember but think it's a 5/8 plug that fits. I'll use them, or tap it for a threaded plug, whatever I have on hand. _________________ modok wrote:
Bent cranks are silent but gather no moss. I mean, ah, something like that. |
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jpaull Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 3460 Location: Paradise, Ca
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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So we yank out all the plugs in a vw case in favor of thread in plugs, but put knock in plugs in a oil galley? 95.2% of marks advice is pretty cool but I pass on the knock in plugs. The case and oil pump holes that need to be plugged dont even need to be drilled in order to be tapped. As long as you start the tap straight it taps threads beautifully and perfect. _________________ [email protected] MPH 1/4 Mile & 8.1 @ 83.7MPH in 1/8 Mile with Mild Type 1 VW Mag Case 2234cc commuter engine in stock weight bug w/only .491 total lift(CB2292 Cam), 42x37 heads, 48idf's, Street tires, Belt on, Mufflers, Pump gas, video of the run here: https://youtu.be/M3SPqMOKAOg
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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 2387 Location: Seekonk,Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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esde wrote: |
KROC wrote: |
mark tucker wrote: |
why do you want to attempt effing up that aera tapping it&threading it, just put a knock in gally plug in it. fast effective and almost moron proof. same go's for the oil pumpkenhusen.
and when you do tap&plus the case use a brass plug!!! |
Hey Mark, you gotta source for the knock in plugs ? |
Dorman sells singles, I think I've always found them at NAPA. Don't remember but think it's a 5/8 plug that fits. I'll use them, or tap it for a threaded plug, whatever I have on hand. |
7/16 plug fit.
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67 Sunroof Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2014 Posts: 1836 Location: Salisbury, MD
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Any tips on doing the hvx mod? |
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To be honest, the plug won’t come out because the oil pump body would be holding it in anyway. I tapped it-too late.
Next issue is this oil restrictor, filter, plug thing!! Pictures below...
Suggestions on this? [email protected] suggested plugging the journal and drilling a very small hole in the plug to restrict the oil but still allow it to pass through to lubricate.
Plug:
Tapped:
The #4 journal hole:
Old pictures: what I started with:
Por15 the chassis:
Rotisserie time!
Epoxy primer time:
Final primer time:
Final paint done!!!!!!
Airbag prep:
Air strut front end:
Getting it running...before realizing a motor tear down was in order😡
Getting there-slowly... |
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