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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Surprise in oil change. What is it? Reply with quote

Great to hear and glad it didn’t cause any damage. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Surprise in oil change. What is it? Reply with quote

You need a boroscope
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Surprise in oil change. What is it? Reply with quote

aeromech wrote:
You need a boroscope


I’m going to be honest here... I have one. I didn’t use it because I thought the chunky #2 spark plug reading was proof enough. But it wasn’t, and I’m seeking opinions on how #3’s plug was so clean while the cylinder was caked in carbon.

It was only an extra hour and change to do the second head; thank god the engine only has like 10k on it so nothing was stuck, rusted, or out of spec.*

Robbie

*except the new oil scraper ring gap. New scraper rings gapped at .020”. (Consider spec @ .010” - .016”.......)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Surprise in oil change. What is it? Reply with quote

That’s very common. The mechanic has a solid hunch that the cause must be such and such. Later finding his assumption to be wrong. It’s happened to me numerous times. I find that usually we assume that the cause must be the hardest, most expensive thing, like a bad ecu only to find later that it was just burned points or something else like a bad spark plug ( happened to me once).

Tools like boroscopes are great for diagnostics. All we need to do Is think about taking the 15 minutes needed to use it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Surprise in oil change. What is it? Reply with quote

Congrats! Any sign of the ring kinking or bending where it snapped?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Surprise in oil change. What is it? Reply with quote

asiab3 wrote:
But his Vanagon has a story in itself, and you'd know it if you've been to Maupin.

Know the story? Hell, I was part of the story. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Surprise in oil change. What is it? Reply with quote

Well, that's interesting. Given the W I D E gap allowing the shrapnel to descend into the sump, I wonder...

1) How common is this problem?

2) How long will it be before it happens again?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: Surprise in oil change. What is it? Reply with quote

Glad you got it all sorted!

So we're saying the green side of the broken expander is still in the sump?

What did the top of #2 look like, with the bad plug? Might have weak spark on that cyl or something. (?) Did you replace plug 2?

Did you change all 4 expanders? Review the other 3 expanders for cracks?

Things to keep an eye on.

Good job,
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: Surprise in oil change. What is it? Reply with quote

Your sockets are out of order and one is upside down

The green part of that ring will be on the right side of the engine, the red, to the left

Thanks to clatter for bringing the new word to the lexicon..

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That you pwanked that oil ring on the way in,

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