"P" rated tires

Mickey bitsko · Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:10 pm Post subject: "P" rated tires

Looked all thru Baja section looking for off road tire ideas , all different sizes makes and models , not one person had what load range they are running front or rears. I have 215/75 BFG A/T load range C front and rear on my '70 type 1 , they're around 5 years old with maybe 5k mi on them. Seem way to stiff for my liking, at least the fronts.

Any suggestions?

kpf · Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

What tire pressure do you run in the front?
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Mickey bitsko · Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

I know I'll get grief for this, 8 f 10 r , honestly, the fronts have almost no sidewall bulge. That being said, I drive 5 miles the a river road to go fishing and hunting and that's what I'm building my build.
Along with the stiffness us the weight, totally unnecessary imo.

oprn · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:29 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

On my sand rail with 5 rib implement tires on the front I run 6 psi. The rears are 14" quad tires that I run 4 psi in. You can let almost all the air out of the fronts before they start to look low.

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Mickey bitsko · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:33 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Thanks for the response, maybe I need to focus more on my suspension. I do run through some pretty rough rock patches and I don't worry about blazing new trails .

TDCTDI · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:03 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Are you running those crappy coil over shocks?
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Mickey bitsko · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:25 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Absolutely not... Stock shocks front and rear.
I think the PO cranked the rear torsion bars to the max, as for the front, he put ,imo, wrong back space wheels to make them stick out as wide as the rear. Not sure that makes the front more harsh but imo is hard on front components.

TDCTDI · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:54 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Since it's a '70, it should have dual spring plates in the rear. See if the inner plates are notched. If they are not, you can regain some suspension travel/compliance by notching them.

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Mickey bitsko · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:59 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Do I need to remove the spring plates to notch them?

TDCTDI · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:01 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Yes.
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Mickey bitsko · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:04 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Thanks, how much did you grind off?

TDCTDI · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:13 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

I started by drilling a 3/4" hole in the plate for the radius, then scribed a straight line from there to the radius at the end of the spring plate bushing.

This will require you to also get longer shocks or to cut 1" out of the lower shock mount cup. Cutting an inch out of the shock mount cup also you gain some more clearance over rocks.
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Mickey bitsko · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:30 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Good suggestions, thank you !

TDCTDI · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:54 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Keep in mind, this is testing the maximum angles of the CVs, but I have been running them like this for 23,000 miles now.
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Mickey bitsko · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:03 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

I understand... How much travel did you gain?

TDCTDI · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:50 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Probably another 1.5" but now I'm not topping out over every transition & rock & gully. It now rides just like it would if it was stock height.

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TDCTDI · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:43 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Are you still running your front sway bar?
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kpf · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:04 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Mickey bitsko · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:41 am Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

Tdctdi, my travels are similar to your power line video.
Your Ghia rides like a Cadillac compared to my bug.

Still running front swaybar.

KTPhil · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: "P" rated tires

To a dog, all tires are p-rated.


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