CSP and A1 headers/exhausts quality

[67 Sunroof]

Has anyone recently purchased an A1 header/exhaust or CSP header/exhaust lately?
Do you have any pictures of the weld quality both internal/externally?
A1 always had very good quality from what I understand but what about the CSP which are priced considerably less? I have reasons I am asking this that I am not willing to get into on a public forum. (Was just reading “how to hot rod your vw engine-old but still has juicy info in it)
I have a dual port motor (1776) in a bug.

[jason]

I have a few A1’s. I like the csp welds better, A1 are average. I wanted the csp wasp but it wouldn’t fit with my traction bar. Was told the A1 would clear everything, it didn’t. At least CSP was honest about it. I will snap some pics of the welds if I remember.

[Alstrup]

[67 Sunroof]

Stainless headers/exhaust...
Weld quality, strength, fit, service after the sale, etc.
Any good/bad thoughts?

[tattooed_pariah]

I bought a SS A-1 header/bullet "muffler" back in 2014, only complaint I have is that the slip fit joints sometimes require a ratchet strap to get em loose (gotta push/pull em into alignment to remove them..)

I use exhaust grease on those joints, but didn't the first time, was a nightmare trying to get it out..
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[67rustavenger]

I have a CSP EVO system with heater boxes to match the header.
The fit is perfect out of the box.
The slipjoints (there are 4 on this system) are well made and seal after a bit of driving. I removed my system a month ago to install a new trans and repair some oil leaks. After 3K of driving miles the slipjoints smoothly came apart without a fight.
The slipjoint clamps at the collector are strong and firmly clamp the pipes in place.
The header to engine exhaust flanges are thick and will not distort under the most aggressive tightening.
The welds (O.D.) are not polished from the factory. But I can overlook that based on the overall quality of the entire exhaust system. I didn't attempt to have a look at the interior profile of the welds. So I cannot comment on the quality inside the pipes.

The only issue that I had with the system was, there was a small dent in one of the mufflers. I didn't notice it until the protective plastic wrap was removed post installation. If the dent was visible on the side of the muffler. I would have returned it for a replacement. Luckily the dent was on the bottom and cannot be seen. Unless you lay on the ground looking up at it.

Good Luck.

EDIT: The CSP system comes with every nut, bolt gasket, and SS fresh air tubes between the rear breast plate and heater boxes.

[jason]

[67 Sunroof]

That’s the csp right?

[jason]

A1, for the price I want stacked dimes not a pocket full of change.

[hobbybob517]

I have the CSP, a very nice product!

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[67 Sunroof]

[Turnswrenches]

Not sure who makes headers for CB Performance but I'm plenty happy with mine for $399.

[67 Sunroof]

I wish cb made a sidewinder style exhaust... I think the quality would be pretty decent.

[67rustavenger]

If you're wanting quality. You're gonna have to pay for it!
Sorry to say that. But it's the truth.

I have had many exhaust systems on my 67. And most of them were difficult to install. Came with incomplete hardware. And take a huge amount of massaging to get fit to the engine.
The CSP EVO system I currently run fits perfectly. And sounds great at full song!

Gene Berg said, "Buy once. Cry Once!" I have tried to beat that quote buying cheap parts and have been stung, at almost every turn in the road. While modifying my my car.
It has never worked out for me.

Good Luck.

[67 Sunroof]

That’s badass. How much if you don’t mind me asking? $1000?

[King_vw61]

A1. Mine was done in 4 days. Went back with engine in car to to some alteration due to a big engine small car fit issue. No charge to redo some of it even tho it was my fault. Tiger is a good guy to work with.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1764346

[67rustavenger]

[jason]

Ivkings, I have had opposite dealings with Tiger. It took at least 6 months on every header I’ve gotten from Tiger. And 3 of the 4 didnt fit either. Wanted it to clear thermostat and tins, it didnt.

[jason]

CSP is cheaper than A1, monetarily.

[King_vw61]