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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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ivwshane wrote: |
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Any update on this? |
no. I am waiting on the word that the bodies are made, and my person who is working on the diaphragm has not gotten back to me with a solution. |
Do you have a rough time frame of when that might be? Months? Years? |
Considering it has been years already, and the prototype was printed, my guess is months. I don't know on the diaphragms. Also ARB said they had some questions then never got back to me. If you have an EGR we hopefully will have pieces you can repair it with soon. If you don't have an EGR then I have a couple cores we can use when the time comes. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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SGKent wrote: |
ivwshane wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
ivwshane wrote: |
Any update on this? |
no. I am waiting on the word that the bodies are made, and my person who is working on the diaphragm has not gotten back to me with a solution. |
Do you have a rough time frame of when that might be? Months? Years? |
Considering it has been years already, and the prototype was printed, my guess is months. I don't know on the diaphragms. Also ARB said they had some questions then never got back to me. If you have an EGR we hopefully will have pieces you can repair it with soon. If you don't have an EGR then I have a couple cores we can use when the time comes. |
My EGR has a ripped diaphragm and a broken lever. The body seems good as does the arm and spring. _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
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oshima Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2011 Posts: 112 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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I’ve got a solid EGR body (I think) if anyone needs it to smog. PM me and pay for shipping and it’s yours. _________________ 1978 2.0L Fuel Injected |
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Hoody Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1948
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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The diaphragms are close to coming to fruition. Again...if your body is in decent shape a simple lapping and and a diaphragm will be all that is required. |
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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Hoody wrote: |
The diaphragms are close to coming to fruition. Again...if your body is in decent shape a simple lapping and and a diaphragm will be all that is required. |
That sounds great!
However, what exactly constitutes a decent body? What should I be looking for? _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
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Hoody Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1948
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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SGKent shows how to disassemble the "body". You want to look for massive pitting on the inside and the outside of where the SS "plunger" goes back and forth. IE if you can get the tiny nut off which can be s bitch...there is a SS washer if memory serves me. The key is the diaphragm. I truly believe most of the bodies just need a lapping. But I can't speak for all of them. Many years ago a simple fix was put up on this site for lapping the plunger to the seats. Perhaps some one else can dig it up. |
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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Yeah, I haven't figured out how to remove that nut.
I guess I'll need to clean mine be to tell unless these pics offer any clues.
_________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
70 single cab |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:53 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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ivwshane wrote: |
Yeah, I haven't figured out how to remove that nut.
I guess I'll need to clean mine be to tell unless these pics offer any clues.
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you have a different design than the standard design. show me a photo of the nut you refer to. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:16 am Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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I looked in the gallery and saw some disassembled EGR pics and was able to at least get the plunger out using a flat head screw driver to hold the plunger while using a socket wrench to undo the nut. I haven't figured out how to unscrew the two halves of the plunger yet without marring the surface.
I'm trying to clean the parts right now to see what I'm working with and I'll post when I'm done. _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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Ok I had time to do a little more cleaning.
Hopefully this pics are good enough to tell whether or not this EGR is good for a rebuild.
_________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
70 single cab |
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heimlich VWNOS.com
Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 6621 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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Why don't you folks just register your car one state over? _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16883 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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heimlich wrote: |
Why don't you folks just register your car one state over? |
if its anything like CT they will catch up with you if you're here too long from out of state. usually happens around schools where there is more out of state activity _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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Calif state bases residence off where you earn most of your income, file your taxes, and spend your time. The CHP cruise when traffic is stopped looking for out of state plates and expired reg. If they see an out of state plate and someone who looks like they care headed home from work it's hey bud did you know your tail light is acting up. Where are you headed? Home? From work? Oops. One year I lived here and worked in Oregon but came home every Friday. I had to pay Oregon and California state income taxes on the income. People in other parts of the USA who are used to lots of freedom have no idea what is headed their way. A big vacuum cleaner headed for your wallet.
That said - Shane - you have a very late EGR reproduction that I think VW made at the very end when they ran out of the others. I have seen ones like it a few times but never had my hands on one. Most are cast iron - yours is machined steel. You should be able to lap that. Use a piece of hose on the valve shaft to lap it. Put the other valve on a bolt and the hose on the bolt to lap. Keep them centered when you lap. Our diaphragm probably won't work on yours. The appear different in your photo. You decide.
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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Well my diaphragm is totally ripped up so who knows what it looked like originally. According to the gallery mine looks like everyone else's.
I haven't figured out a good way to separate the two halves of the plunger. Any suggestions? _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
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heimlich VWNOS.com
Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 6621 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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SGKent wrote: |
Calif state bases residence off where you earn most of your income, file your taxes, and spend your time. The CHP cruise when traffic is stopped looking for out of state plates and expired reg. If they see an out of state plate and someone who looks like they care headed home from work it's hey bud did you know your tail light is acting up. Where are you headed? Home? From work? Oops. One year I lived here and worked in Oregon but came home every Friday. I had to pay Oregon and California state income taxes on the income. People in other parts of the USA who are used to lots of freedom have no idea what is headed their way. A big vacuum cleaner headed for your wallet.
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No income tax in Texas. If the car is a company car with the company registered in Arizona how would that work? _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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heimlich wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
Calif state bases residence off where you earn most of your income, file your taxes, and spend your time. The CHP cruise when traffic is stopped looking for out of state plates and expired reg. If they see an out of state plate and someone who looks like they care headed home from work it's hey bud did you know your tail light is acting up. Where are you headed? Home? From work? Oops. One year I lived here and worked in Oregon but came home every Friday. I had to pay Oregon and California state income taxes on the income. People in other parts of the USA who are used to lots of freedom have no idea what is headed their way. A big vacuum cleaner headed for your wallet.
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No income tax in Texas. If the car is a company car with the company registered in Arizona how would that work? |
sounds like fraud to me.
Shane - you are welcome to come by anytime and we can try to take it apart. I usually try a small pair of vise grips and a pair of good pliers on the non vavle part of the stem. IF IT BINDS, stop, put penetrating oil on it, slowly work it apart a fraction of a turn out then in then out then in. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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heimlich wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
Calif state bases residence off where you earn most of your income, file your taxes, and spend your time. The CHP cruise when traffic is stopped looking for out of state plates and expired reg. If they see an out of state plate and someone who looks like they care headed home from work it's hey bud did you know your tail light is acting up. Where are you headed? Home? From work? Oops. One year I lived here and worked in Oregon but came home every Friday. I had to pay Oregon and California state income taxes on the income. People in other parts of the USA who are used to lots of freedom have no idea what is headed their way. A big vacuum cleaner headed for your wallet.
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No income tax in Texas. If the car is a company car with the company registered in Arizona how would that work? |
Most states require you register the car in the state of use. It is immaterial in what State the company is incorporated.
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Why don't you folks just register your car one state over? |
Thats amazing no one has thought of that before. _________________ .ssS! |
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tommu Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2011 Posts: 618 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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Hey Steve. Any news on this project? I'm guessing Corona will not have helped.. _________________ |
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 12:10 am Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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I finally got mine completely apart (I used the double nut method). The diaphragm sgkent posted looks like it’s a match. After looking at mine further it looks like all the diaphragm does is to seal the shaft to prevent gases from blowing out of the plunger hole.
I plan on making a mold and sandwiching some high temp silicone between the mold and body of the EGR and various parts. Without sealing it properly the EGR becomes a major source for a vacuum link. _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
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tommu Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2011 Posts: 618 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: EGR Demand in California |
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For me it's getting to the point that diaphragms that are intact when I find them are blowing out after a couple of months of driving. Without a replacement I'm going to have to run without one and either try to pass smog with it blocked off or fail SMOG and get an EGR exemption from the ARB. In the long run the latter option may be better.. _________________ |
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