Author |
Message |
Long-roofs Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2002 Posts: 2295 Location: Millwood, Wa
|
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:59 am Post subject: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
Can not tell, do I have a broken key in there? Is code 3F2 Looks like a big 5 and M?
_________________ ---
I have been on a treadmill drinking vodka, maybe more than once.
"No, I do not own a bleepin' leaf blower"
-- |
|
Back to top |
|
|
rustyfastback Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2002 Posts: 839 Location: Georgia
|
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
I don’t think the key is broken off in the cylinder. That type sometimes looks as if there is a key in it. The key code is hand engraved into the signal arm. It looks like the signal arm maybe has been replaced. Only problem is most people do not transfer the code off the old arm. I have repaired several of those columns. I hate to say without the key code the switch is going to have to be replaced. That circle K ignition switch is kinda tough to find also. My experience 1 out of 8 used ones are usually good. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Long-roofs Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2002 Posts: 2295 Location: Millwood, Wa
|
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
I put a pick in ignition, and I really think the key is broke off in there...
So with turn signal having a date stamped 1964, and car is a 1964, that is swapped out?
Thanks for the help, early T3s are a mystery to me. _________________ ---
I have been on a treadmill drinking vodka, maybe more than once.
"No, I do not own a bleepin' leaf blower"
-- |
|
Back to top |
|
|
rustyfastback Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2002 Posts: 839 Location: Georgia
|
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
Keep in mind those ignition locks use round pins & not flat wafers like on door locks. I have never seen a key code printed in ink on any early column. I have quite a few early columns & worked on many others. I have never seen a key code printed in ink like that one. I usually see the ink stamping on replacement arms. That arm could be produced in 1964 but may not be original. That looks to be an “H” code lock & should have H#### (4 numbers after H) I know there is an “FM” series lock same thing FM####. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17969 Location: Eugene, OR
|
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:38 am Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
Take the steering column to your local Locksmith. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey |
|
Back to top |
|
|
notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22448 Location: Escondido CA
|
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
Hey brother! How you been? What did you get? A notch or square?
Best bet is to pull it and send it out like Mike said. Gabriel can do it but I don't know how well he is yet.
If you need to replace it, then any 61-67 one will work. Also ISP West sells repos of these.
Whatever you do don't get rid of that scripted one. They all are not lettered on the outside like that and I bet that's the one from this car when new.
PM me if you need more help. _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Long-roofs Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2002 Posts: 2295 Location: Millwood, Wa
|
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:25 am Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
Hey Notchboy...Picked up this '64 truck, was a Squareback...basically saved it from the woods and being crushed. Just making this beater drive to Yakima (Moxee) show next month.
Thanks for the help everyone. Did not want to pull ignition, read all about the difficulties in that....
_________________ ---
I have been on a treadmill drinking vodka, maybe more than once.
"No, I do not own a bleepin' leaf blower"
-- |
|
Back to top |
|
|
notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22448 Location: Escondido CA
|
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:53 am Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
You got your work cut out for you brother. Maybe just bypass it with a generic ignition mounted under the dash. _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17969 Location: Eugene, OR
|
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:17 am Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
The aftermarket keyed switch & homemade bracket we took out of our '67 is being used by dc in his WA Type 3 pickup, so it's an 'approved mod'. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22407 Location: Kimball, Mi
|
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:19 am Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
Mike Fisher wrote: |
The aftermarket keyed switch & homemade bracket we took out of our '67 is being used by dc in his WA Type 3 pickup, so it's an 'approved mod'. |
As long as the steering wheel isn't locked. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
Tram wrote: |
"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Long-roofs Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2002 Posts: 2295 Location: Millwood, Wa
|
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:57 am Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
Steering is not locked. That would be bad if it locked! With a key in there broke off, it should not lock. Buses do not lock til key is removed, if key was turned prior. _________________ ---
I have been on a treadmill drinking vodka, maybe more than once.
"No, I do not own a bleepin' leaf blower"
-- |
|
Back to top |
|
|
notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22448 Location: Escondido CA
|
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:24 am Post subject: Re: 1964 Ignition Broken Key? Code |
|
|
If its not locked then you most likely do have something in there to keep the bolt from springing out, locking the column.
Without a key - that should lock. _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|