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dkoesyncro Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2006 Posts: 981
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:25 pm Post subject: CV grease choice??? |
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I'm not sure why I'm posting this now, I've already pulled the trigger!
I was installing my front diff yesterday and knocked my CV and two bearings hit the floor. So, I thought well I better service these while the van is down. Last night led to a few hours of reading grease preferences!
The majority rules is Moly....but so many types! I almost pulled the trigger on Neo Synthetics CCV but once I learned that one tub will do two joints the price was way out of budget. Lots of folks were using swepco 101 capped with DelRay antisieze CV grease. This seemed a bit daunting and I learned of swepco 164, this is swepcos' version of the DelRay/Swepco blend
This was an easier bill to pay, not as cheap as flaps but certainly not breaking the bank either! |
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wesitarz Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2012 Posts: 1477 Location: Victoria,B.C.Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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My local VW mechanic uses LiquiMoly. |
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GreggK Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2008 Posts: 890 Location: Colorado/Philidelphia
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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Check out the Neo brand that T3 is offering. It has a real nice consistency when your working with it but I have no long term opinion yet. |
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6798 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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https://www.testfacts.com/12-best-wheel-bearing-greases/
The write up on #10, Royal Purple, looks interesting. _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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jocoman Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2016 Posts: 425 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:16 am Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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Valvoline VV633 Moly Fortified Multi-Purpose Grease _________________ '86 Westfalia 2.0L Zetec
'97 Volvo 850 AWD Turbo
" The fun never stops" |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16474 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Syncronoid Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2012 Posts: 1110 Location: Stanford, CA and Bend, OR
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:48 am Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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Lots of threads on this topic. I would suggest using the search feature first, then based on that, narrow the scope to 2 or 3 greases for the purpose of discussion.
From my experience on this board, the top 2 choices seem to be Redline CV2 and your basic moly type that is included in many CV kits. The NEO grease from T3 is new to the scene and, due to its cost, there isn't much feedback on performance or longevity (though the cost implies it should be stellar). _________________ '90 Syncro Westy w/GW2.5L
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:52 am Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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If you want to save time, just go to Colin's website itinerant air cooled and see what he uses on the 1000s of Bussess he sservicess around North America, rather than a thousand Idiopions on the webs (like mine) _________________ .ssS! |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6798 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:26 am Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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whatever's leftover from the last time I did it! _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
There are seven days in a week. Someday is not one of them. |
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newerwesty1987 Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2010 Posts: 407
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:28 am Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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Redline is very well known in the racing and 4x4 builders world. They make the best oils overall next to Amsoil. All their stuff is USA made and exceeds all standards by far. Their gear oil is so good you can even feel a difference in shifting in most cases. I've used their CV2 grease for a long time and can't imagine why anyone would bother with anything else, other than convenience. I've even called their engineers before and they will personally investigate application questions and cross-references for you when you have a spec that either doesn't exist anymore or you can't find a solution to. Great company. |
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Merian Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:56 am Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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I didn't see any methodology on that best CV grease article.
I've heard good things about CAT, Neo, SynPower, and others. I use Swepco (a boutique grease - believe it or not).
Any good grease that is rated for this use should be fine.
No grease will make up for crummy aftermarket components _________________ .... |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50261
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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jocoman wrote: |
Valvoline VV633 Moly Fortified Multi-Purpose Grease |
I have been using Valvoline for many many years with great success. Unless one is running their axles at extreme angles I think it is fine.
Syncronoid wrote: |
and your basic moly type that is included in many CV kits
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The packs that come with CV joints are the one grease I will not use, as their grease seems to be designed overly thick to keep the grease from leaking from the joint, this being for visual purposes and not functional purposes. This results in a grease that tends to cake up and leave the joint dry of grease. There may be some packs that are better than others so this may not apply to all the ones out there. |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16474 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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Wildthings wrote: |
The packs that come with CV joints are the one grease I will not use, as their grease seems to be designed overly thick to keep the grease from leaking from the joint, this being for visual purposes and not functional purposes. This results in a grease that tends to cake up and leave the joint dry of grease. There may be some packs that are better than others so this may not apply to all the ones out there. |
Interesting, I have not run across that yet... yet.... MMMV. _________________ Dave O
'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9521 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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Use the grease in the little bag that comes with the joint.
Assemble the van & drive while continuing your research.
After 5-10,000 miles, clean out the "break-in grease" and replace it with the good stuff.
Good stuff being a "moly CV grease” that's clean. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16474 Location: Brookeville, MD
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dkoesyncro Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2006 Posts: 981
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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I've always used what was supplied. A bag of moly blend i assume; who supplies VW and GKN/Loebro?
I've used Valvoline synthetic with moly. I opted for the swepco after reading race, rail and UTV forums. These three groups of motor heads are hard on CVs. The synblend showed signs of thinning and migration. Redline recently has been shown signs of thinning as well.
After much reading, I opted for the swepco; many having great success and the price was affordable. The Next Synthetic was also well regarded. I will be trying Neos' wheel bearing grease soon enough. |
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tjet Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3528 Location: CA & NM
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:40 am Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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2 replys in this thread mention "great success"
1 for each
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markswagen Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2018 Posts: 956 Location: san diego
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:55 am Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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Well the number 1 on that is the red line, which used to be a favorite, number 3 are they reading what they are writing, or did i miss something, anti seize is the 3rd best choice for wheel bearings
_________________ markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.
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Jeffrey Lee Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2014 Posts: 1488 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:22 am Post subject: Re: CV grease choice??? |
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markswagen wrote: |
Well the number 1 on that is the red line, which used to be a favorite, number 3 are they reading what they are writing, or did i miss something, anti seize is the 3rd best choice for wheel bearings
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Well, one thing's for sure: your balls won't ever get stuck ...
Now (stroking chin), how many 8 oz. bottles to buy, and should I use the bottle-top applicator brush?
But there's NO WAY it's better than #5: Seafoam Extreme Marine & Rv Deep Creep Lubricant & Cleaner! |
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