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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:40 pm Post subject: Painting new heater boxes |
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I need to protect brand new Dansk heater boxes. Tiger @ A1 suggested just spraying them with VHT.
I figure satin black with be best to clean if they get oil, dirt, grease on them.
Yes / No ? _________________ Glenn
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anthracitedub Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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I used regular high heat engine paint on a set on an engine I built almost 20 years ago... still looking ok. I would imagine the VHT would be even better. I used VHT silver on my recent 40HP build for the muffler... haven’t ran it enough to confirm... but I think it would hold up really good on boxes. |
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rugblaster Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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I just let them get dirty as fuck after an initial spray of dove grey. _________________ '69 Karmy, '69 Camper, Meyers clone, '65 drag bug, 10.78 @ 128 (sold it) '51 Dodge farm truck,
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gt1953 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Glen you may be onto something with the black. Oil grease rode grime is all within that part of the color wheel of black so why not. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26785 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Sandblasting or beadblasting makes any paint adhere far better. Wipe down with wax/grease remover, and do a good job spraying, it'll look every bit as good as powdercoat.
I'd have to say it's going to be mainly cosmetic tho, they will probably rot at the seams and interior, since they have no rust protection whatsoever in there. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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modok wrote: |
I'd have to say it's going to be mainly cosmetic tho, they will probably rot at the seams and interior, since they have no rust protection whatsoever in there. |
I totally agree. _________________ Glenn
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ps2375 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Cerakote will last and protect. And is a true hi temp coating.
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allamaabroad Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2016 Posts: 560 Location: South Jordan, Utah
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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I used satin VHT on my heater boxes, and they get real hot with my setup. Paint is still real nice after almost a year, and has held up to its fair share of oil leaks and road salt.
Definitely recommend blasting them beforehand, the VHT is pretty picky about proper adhesion. _________________ Dennis - 1973 Super Beetle ('16-'21)
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67rustavenger Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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[quote="Glenn"]I need to protect brand new Dansk heater boxes. Tiger @ A1 suggested just spraying them with VHT.
I figure satin black with be best to clean if they get oil, dirt, grease on them.
Yes![/quote]
My CSP heater boxes are satin black and look great.
Though like Glen said. The insides are not coated. So we'll see how then hold up to the winter rain.
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glutamodo The Android
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Call me a purist, but I prefer fresh air heat exchangers to be externally coated in gray. My 62 is stale air, that's different (black), but my Baja, that's fresh air and I keep them gray. Yes, they need to be painted! But I really don't think color makes any difference as far as heat delivery. _________________ Andy T.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Yes get the VHT 1600* header paint. Follow the directions on the can. Sandblast the heater box. Use the VHT 1600* primer then the paint. Again follow the directions on the can and BAKE them in an oven. That is the absolute best you can get out of a rattle can. I have done headers like that and they last several years. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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calvinater Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:39 am Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Rutland high temp stove paint. _________________ "Albatross"! |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Satin and flat paints are harder to clean than gloss paints ... if that matters. VW painted them gray so I do too. Never used high heat paint. The outsides don't get hot enough to burn paint except for the forward pipe and flange that attaches to the head. _________________ Brian
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Q-Dog wrote: |
Satin and flat paints are harder to clean than gloss paints ... if that matters. VW painted them gray so I do too. Never used high heat paint. The outsides don't get hot enough to burn paint except for the forward pipe and flange that attaches to the head. |
That’s what I’ve been taught ^^^
Rust-Oleum Gloss Dark Gray is what we use at my buddy’s shop with success. Works well on manifolds as well. In my head, I always thought the gray color would help expose a phantom oil leak better.
https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-249115-Painters-Purpose-12-Ounce/dp/B002BWOS4Y
Couldn’t find picture of heater boxes but you can see the gray on my manifold
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bluebus86 Banned
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Glenn wrote: |
I need to protect brand new Dansk heater boxes. Tiger @ A1 suggested just spraying them with VHT.
I figure satin black with be best to clean if they get oil, dirt, grease on them.
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If black they will be harder to clean as the dirt wont be as visible. If you cant see the dirt, you maybe more likely to ignore it, and leave it dirty.
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PuddleRainbow Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Painting new heater boxes |
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Hello, I replaced one on an FI bug and cleaned and painted it with some Hammerite I had on hand about two months ago. Looks good so far. |
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