Ghia vs Beetle pan section dimensions

[tristanblue]

I am working on a 66 convertible ghia. The car has not seen salt but the top leaked and water traveled and sat in the rear drop down section of the floor pans. This obviously cause rust and holes. The previous owner cut out JUST the drop down sections of each pan and crudely replaced them with flat steel. I would like to clean up-fix these repairs.

Being the original pans are so clean up in the front and the entire bolt on channel is great and intact I would just like to patch in the drop down sections. The ones available for ghia are too small for what I need but I am seeing an abundance of beetle rear half pans locally for quite cheap on the club-online sites.

So my question is what are the dimensions of the rear section of ghia pan and what are they of a beetle? I was wondering if I could trim the bolt on edge off a beetle rear half and splice it into place on the ghia pans.

Anyone have dimensions for this (picture below) section on beetle pans?

[Evil_Fiz]

The Ghia pans are ~3" wider. Here is a drawing with the relevanrt dimensions: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=650461&highlight=measured+drawing

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[TDCTDI]

While the overall width of the pans is different, is the drop down well different? I don't see where the drawings address this.
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[tristanblue]

Tdctdi that is exactly what I was wondering about.

Is the beetle drop down section usable in the ghia? Might have to add a little here or there but would it be compatible size wise

[hopkin]

I have these Beetle dimensions, these were posted earlier on Samba and I saved them:

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[Onceler]

Best I can do at the moment. This is out of a 72 Ghia.

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[tristanblue]

Cool width is about 18 inches?

Anyone know what it is on a beetle?

Thanks

[didget69]

https://www.thesamba.com/vw//forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1480098

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=650461&highlight=measured+drawing

Later, edited Image >

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[TDCTDI]

I just went out & measured both a Beetle and a Ghia, both with aftermarket replacement pans, and the "well" area on the Ghia is a good 1.5"-2" wider than those on a Beetle.
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[didget69]

Aren't the pressing 'dimples' a different size/shape as well?

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[didget69]

FWIW: there is a certain California Import Parts 1 supplier currently offering full pans for $210/side with free shipping.

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[Onceler]

I bought this, probably available at cip1 too
https://www.mtmfg.com/part/view/quotquarter-panquo...t=404-71-L
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[tristanblue]

Thanks for info guys.

I can pick up some beetle rear halves for like $10-$20 locally from some guys I know. As long as they are smaller then the ghia I can make them work by splicing in some flat on the sides if needed. This car is a rat-rod type thing and not really concerned with 100% correct stampings just something presentable-functions correctly.

Tristan

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[rbsurfguy]

That is some redneck fun for an art project for sure!!! <-- Meant in all respect!

But it's still more fun to watch burning things running around..heh heh heh
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It looks like a transaxle!?!
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