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scot marechaux Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2010 Posts: 11 Location: wellsville ny
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:30 pm Post subject: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 ~ SOLVED |
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my registration say my Vanagon is 1985. the head lights seem to be 1986. how do I confirm its birth date?
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7916 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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If the 10th digit in the VIN is an F, the van is an '85 that simply had a headlight/grille swap. If the 10th digit is a G, it's an '86. _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6532 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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800-DRIVEVW can give you a VIN-based birthdate. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9798 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9603 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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Thats an ‘85 color.
Kinda cool.
Edgy.
Like it deserves its own pronoun. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7756 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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Kam's got the answer...legally, it's all based on VIN. Just curious, what engine you got in there?
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Wellington Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2004 Posts: 1884 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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It's a special edition, good weather only driving, hence the no wipers. |
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scot marechaux Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2010 Posts: 11 Location: wellsville ny
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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dhaavers wrote: |
Kam's got the answer...legally, it's all based on VIN. Just curious, what engine you got in there?
- Dave |
see my photos and you tell me. I am newbie.
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmGsXYAs |
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scot marechaux Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2010 Posts: 11 Location: wellsville ny
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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Wellington wrote: |
It's a special edition, good weather only driving, hence the no wipers. |
had them off to paint them. |
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scot marechaux Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2010 Posts: 11 Location: wellsville ny
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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kamzcab86 wrote: |
If the 10th digit in the VIN is an F, the van is an '85 that simply had a headlight/grille swap. If the 10th digit is a G, it's an '86. |
I have many photos here to help identify any weird stuff. https://flic.kr/s/aHsmGsXYAs |
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scot marechaux Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2010 Posts: 11 Location: wellsville ny
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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Wellington wrote: |
It's a special edition, good weather only driving, hence the no wipers. |
desert tan color---= no rain in desert |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7756 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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scot marechaux wrote: |
dhaavers wrote: |
Kam's got the answer...legally, it's all based on VIN. Just curious, what engine you got in there?
- Dave |
see my photos and you tell me. I am newbie.
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmGsXYAs |
A very original-looking 2.1, which also points to it being an '86. Is the shiny paint quite new?
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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The cover over the relay box appears to be for a 2.1L. Few people doing an engine swap would bother swapping the cover. I know I didn't when I did my 1.9 to 2.1L swap. |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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SyncroButter Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2016 Posts: 383 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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Scott, the pics are nice but do not answer the question... your VIN number is the authoritative way to tell the year. This will appear in at least 4 places on your van as well as on your title.
Easiest VIN to locate should be on a plate visible through your windshield, if you are standing in front of the van it will be in the lower right riveted to your dash. Other spots would be sticker on your b pillar, stamped into the frame cross member approximately underneath the passenger seat, and on the sticker under your dash close to the fuses.
Regardless, your van appears to be in very good original shape... not something I would expect to find in the northeast! _________________ Grant
In the stable: 1986 Syncro Westfalia/Bostig, 1989 Doka Tristar, 1974 Vespa Rally 200, 1973 Vespa Primavera 125, 1963 Solex 2200, 1938 Buick Special
Gone but not forgotten: 1989 Porsche 944, 1973 Standard Beetle |
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Yellow Rabbit Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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The sticker says engine code DH which is a 1.9. I am pretty sure that LL1M paint was a 1985 only color (best color ever BTW). Over the course of the last 35 years, someone loved this van enough to update the grill and engine from a newer van. |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7916 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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Confirmed: Your van is a 1985 model year vehicle (an early '85 at that) and is titled/registered correctly. The van has simply been updated. _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
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SyncroButter Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2016 Posts: 383 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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Yellow Rabbit wrote: |
The sticker says engine code DH which is a 1.9. I am pretty sure that LL1M paint was a 1985 only color (best color ever BTW). Over the course of the last 35 years, someone loved this van enough to update the grill and engine from a newer van. |
I have a 1986 syncro westy from Canada that is factory LL1M, I *love* this color.
Before repaint:
After repaint (and SA headlights and RMW bumpers and truck mirrors)
_________________ Grant
In the stable: 1986 Syncro Westfalia/Bostig, 1989 Doka Tristar, 1974 Vespa Rally 200, 1973 Vespa Primavera 125, 1963 Solex 2200, 1938 Buick Special
Gone but not forgotten: 1989 Porsche 944, 1973 Standard Beetle |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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An on-line VIN decoder for USA Vanagons is here:
https://www.vanagons.org/
Scroll down - it's at the bottom.
Jim Davis
(Wishing I had the 1983-1985 pages done now!) _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
sphet wrote: |
I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5076 Location: denver
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1985 or 1986 Westfalia? reg says 1985 |
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SyncroButter wrote: |
I have a 1986 syncro westy from Canada that is factory LL1M, I *love* this color.
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In that case, I hope you've perused the Beige Vanagon Appreciation Thread...One of my favorites:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=597672&highlight=beige++vanagon++appreciation _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
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