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MrPolak
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 Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:41 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| Many years and flame wars later, crickets. Not that I'm a fan of hacking vintage cars, but I do admire the balls it takes to finish this kind of project. |
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volkswouter
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| Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:47 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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Thank you for the URL. I really like this built and bus! |
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Clara 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:37 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| volkswouter wrote: |
Thank you for the URL. I really like this built and bus! |
It is not named appropriately or accurately.
It is less a true 4x4 splitty than a Brazilian bus with a roof clip is a true 23 window.
Can it get a name adjustment, please?
To something like "building a 4x4 splitty?" |
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japio
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| Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:30 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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It is True 4x4 and a Splitty, so title seems correct to me... 
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turbotype1
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| Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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For Fucksakes Clara, Give it a rest already!!!
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Clatter
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| Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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Why would anyone care what someone else their project?? 
If it makes you feel any better,
It's "A true 4x4 Splitty" not "A true Splitty 4x4"..
To be even more technically correct, there was never a vehicle from VW called a 'Splitty' specifically.
Maybe this will help you accept what our OP decided to name his thread?
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bobbyblack
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| Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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I'd settle for seeing a thesamba hosted picture or three of this rig.. I hate what photobucket does to the pictures. Makes me want to barf..
Any project has its set of sins.
Nobody can ever get it exactly how it was delivered off the Factory floor. AND, if you did, somebody would point out that the doors didn't hang quite right anyway, even thought they didn't straight from the factory!
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Clara
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| Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:36 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| japio wrote: |
| It is True 4x4 and a Splitty, so title seems correct to me... |
Are you going to claim that a DD 23 made from a panelvan is a true DD 23?
Sounds like it.
And you see nothing with someone claiming it as a real DD 23?
Read the thread about the guy who bought what he thought was a real 59 samba. The word "fraud" was used.
Plenty of people are happy to own that they buildt a non-samba into a samba.
Grumpy's proudly proclaims you can drive in a 13 and drive out a 21.
Some people don't care if their ragtop bus was that way from the factory or not, they just want a sunroof and those little skylight windows! Fair enough.
People often add options, like safari windows. Or gauges, etc.
Sometimes people call it a 'dream' build, when they build a bus with the options they wish the bus had, that they wish they could find a bus with.
Claiming, or even implying, that the 'made' 21 (or fake 4x4, or whatever was created) was original is dishonest.
Yes, generally a real/factory/true 21 (or whatever) is cooler/ more desirable/ more valuable than a dream/'made'/created/fake/tribute/ clone one. There's the temptation to claim it as real. This is not unique to VWs.
https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/replica-vs-real/
https://www.fordgt500.com/threads/posers-and-fake-shelbys.11615/
Using the word 'true' implies it is a factory build. But it truely is not. It is just a build.
It would be a cooler build if they didn't say it was something it isn't. Bummer about that |
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AS350driver
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:26 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| Clara wrote: |
| japio wrote: |
| It is True 4x4 and a Splitty, so title seems correct to me... |
Are you going to claim that a DD 23 made from a panelvan is a true DD 23?
Sounds like it.
And you see nothing with someone claiming it as a real DD 23?
Read the thread about the guy who bought what he thought was a real 59 samba. The word "fraud" was used.
Plenty of people are happy to own that they buildt a non-samba into a samba.
Grumpy's proudly proclaims you can drive in a 13 and drive out a 21.
Some people don't care if their ragtop bus was that way from the factory or not, they just want a sunroof and those little skylight windows! Fair enough.
People often add options, like safari windows. Or gauges, etc.
Sometimes people call it a 'dream' build, when they build a bus with the options they wish the bus had, that they wish they could find a bus with.
Claiming, or even implying, that the 'made' 21 (or fake 4x4, or whatever was created) was original is dishonest.
Yes, generally a real/factory/true 21 (or whatever) is cooler/ more desirable/ more valuable than a dream/'made'/created/fake/tribute/ clone one. There's the temptation to claim it as real. This is not unique to VWs.
https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/replica-vs-real/
https://www.fordgt500.com/threads/posers-and-fake-shelbys.11615/
Using the word 'true' implies it is a factory build. But it truely is not. It is just a build.
It would be a cooler build if they didn't say it was something it isn't. Bummer about that |
You’re correct in that this isn’t one of the factory made prototype 4x4 vw split buses, therefore it could be argued it isn’t a “true” 4x4 “splitty”.
On the other hand, comparing it to the infamous, fake, $125k 59 23w isn’t a very good comparison. That 59 was created with only one purpose, to get rolled across an auction block represented as genuine, and defraud bidders.
This 4x4 “splitty” wasn’t /isn’t being built to defraud anyone. |
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Culito
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| Clara wrote: |
| japio wrote: |
| It is True 4x4 and a Splitty, so title seems correct to me... |
Are you going to claim that a DD 23 made from a panelvan is a true DD 23?
Sounds like it.
And you see nothing with someone claiming it as a real DD 23?
Read the thread about the guy who bought what he thought was a real 59 samba. The word "fraud" was used.
Plenty of people are happy to own that they buildt a non-samba into a samba.
Grumpy's proudly proclaims you can drive in a 13 and drive out a 21.
Some people don't care if their ragtop bus was that way from the factory or not, they just want a sunroof and those little skylight windows! Fair enough.
People often add options, like safari windows. Or gauges, etc.
Sometimes people call it a 'dream' build, when they build a bus with the options they wish the bus had, that they wish they could find a bus with.
Claiming, or even implying, that the 'made' 21 (or fake 4x4, or whatever was created) was original is dishonest.
Yes, generally a real/factory/true 21 (or whatever) is cooler/ more desirable/ more valuable than a dream/'made'/created/fake/tribute/ clone one. There's the temptation to claim it as real. This is not unique to VWs.
https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/replica-vs-real/
https://www.fordgt500.com/threads/posers-and-fake-shelbys.11615/
Using the word 'true' implies it is a factory build. But it truely is not. It is just a build.
It would be a cooler build if they didn't say it was something it isn't. Bummer about that |
Yikes.
I don't think the builder is trying to mislead anyone here.
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Spitty1974
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| Without getting involved in the current rhetoric in this thread...I really just want to see this thread updated and see a video of this thing off road. Albeit an unconventional build, I was always drawn to it because of the ingenuity of the builder. |
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nynone4
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| Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:13 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| Without getting involved in the current rhetoric in this thread...I really just want to see this thread updated and see a video of this thing off road. Albeit an unconventional build, I was always drawn to it because of the ingenuity of the builder. |
Wait... your claim to be a 1974 Splitty? You know., in 1974...
I'm just teasing. I'm totally with you. I'd love to see an update to this thread as well. I just love the idea of a split bus and a Pinzgauer having a love child. To each their own. Let's focus on the creativity of someone building their vehicle how THEY want it.
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Clara
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:50 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| AS350driver wrote: |
You’re correct in that this isn’t one of the factory made prototype 4x4 vw split buses, therefore it isn’t a “true” 4x4 “splitty”. |
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On the other hand, comparing it to the infamous, fake, $125k 59 23w isn’t a very good comparison. That 59 was created with only one purpose, to get rolled across an auction block represented as genuine, and defraud bidders.
This 4x4 “splitty” wasn’t /isn’t being built to defraud anyone. |
I don't know if that 59 was turned into a 23 to defraud someone. Maybe so.
Maybe it was built because some one just wanted a 23.
Could be someone else later sold it under false pretenses. You think that doesn't happen?
Funny to see you on that side of the debate.
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Yikes.
I don't think the builder is trying to mislead anyone here. |
I got the impression he was.
If he wasn't trying to mislead anyone, he would not have titled the build thread misleadingly. He wouldn't have been defensive about it. |
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notchboy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:47 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| Clara wrote: |
| If he wasn't trying to mislead anyone, he would not have titled the build thread misleadingly. He wouldn't have been defensive about it. |
Bullshit. Most anyone would have taken offense. Im getting defensive right now just because my impressions of this build are different than yours. You are accusing a negative connotation on this guys build. Do you think its supposed to be accepted with flowers and open arms? Im triggered by seeing "Spitty1974" for christ sake  
So did they ever build a Split window era 4X4 prototype? Any kind of concept? Or is it purely a mid Bay era thing? (this is the part of my pos that will be overlooked) 
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chrisflstf
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:52 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| Good grief woman, let it go. It's only a name |
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Spitty1974
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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Just an FYI, my username here has nothing to do with a VW Bus. The Spitty, is short for my last name, and 1974 is the year I was born. I'm not even sure why my post caused any anguish; I'm totally confused.
At any point, carry on! |
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notchboy
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:03 am Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| Spitty1974 wrote: |
Just an FYI, my username here has nothing to do with a VW Bus. The Spitty, is short for my last name, and 1974 is the year I was born. I'm not even sure why my post caused any anguish; I'm totally confused.
At any point, carry on! |
I was definitely joking.
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PeteSC
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| If there was ever a thread that deserved to get locked.... |
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| If there was ever a thread that deserved to get locked.... |
Maybe, but this shit is funny.
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| Good grief woman, let it go. It's only a name |
I for one, am hoping the build is still ongoing, or at least still in the plans and set aside until more time/money/resources become available.
The only real letdown would be if it sits unfinished and gets parted out.
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MrPolak
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: The Splitzgauer, A true 4x4 Splitty. |
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| I'd like to see it finished as well, but I do not think it belongs in the "split bus" section. The chassis is a Pinzgauer, so it no longer is a VW. Don't get me wrong, I do love a Pinzy. |
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