Atlanta area 72 Westy Paint/Body Repair saga....advice?

[CLARENCEBEEKS]

It doesn’t matter what font you type the n-word In, it is equally offensive.

Agreed. I hear African Americans say it daily to each other, it offends me but not them? -if a white person should say it They may lose their job, strange times?

Liar (would have gotten you shot in the 1800’s) and “F”face and “f”you are offensive too -
this guy is pretty upset about things such as a tag etc... But not enough to speak up or take his business somewhere else? Long after he is refunded his money he’s gonna be upset. He should just begin the healing and go get his money back today.

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Language is neither context nor speaker blind, that is true. If you go to some countries in Africa, you hear words that are not used by grown-ups in the West.

Replace the flag with a swastika, and maybe that is easier to get.

I officially declare this thread OTR
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[RalphWiggam]

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[CLARENCEBEEKS]

Why dont you stay out of this? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Meow hissss.... growl. (Angry growl). If only I were a champion for your cause!
You would be giving me cyber fist bumps and “right on bro” love like all the other Jacklegs that have no idea what’s happened .
However I am going to stay out of your endless blathering about all the injustices of your world. Drive down get your deposit back, he will pay you. Blast Metallica or the Misfits for the trip there then some Yani with the Indigo Girls sprinkled in for the trip back with all that cash. I apologize for upsetting you.

[RalphWiggam]

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[caffeinebean]

What stands out to me most here in this adventure is the shop owner offering my deposit back and for me to take my bus out before it was even started. At that point I would have said " I'll be right there"
Just my feeling when offered that option.

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There at least six contextual ways this could have been said with highly diverse meanings and intentions; that is not an easy call from a text version for me.
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[mar59sta]

Replace the swastika with a vw emblem......... if having that tag makes you a hate filled racist, then the vw makes you a nazi pffffffft . Offered at least twice to get your bus and $ before work started, twice. I’m sorry for your experience but I just see the sun different than some of you, my sunset is your sunrise....... both are correct, just different perspective. Fair winds and following seas friends
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[CLARENCEBEEKS]

MAGA
MTSGA. So much anger Sad

[skills@eurocarsplus]

finally a shitshow i'm not involved in

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Let’s blame VW for World War I too, since Ferdinand Porsche was the Archdukes chaffauer , too.

There is no equivalence of the VW brand, with Czech Austrian roots, bth pre war and post war German influence , and US MARSHALL plan history, and a flag appropriated for racist reasons in 1948.
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[CLARENCEBEEKS]

Or Tim could have just asked about the tag and he Would have heard about the (non ending) Local rivalry between the Bremen Blue Devils and the Haralson County Rebels that has carried on for generations. But, this made a fine lil nugget in his diatribe to garner some favor in his ”asking for advice” on this platform. He’s much smarter than these post reveal, he is getting to vent and hopefully damage another persons business etc etc
Make the drive, ask for your deposit and you will get it. I can even point you in the direction of some good food around there.

[RalphWiggam]

[CLARENCEBEEKS]

You are so wound up man... no one wants to do you harm. Stop in town and get the local cops to go with you (GeezAmighty) you are so stressed out over this money. Oh! You said it was a PayPal transaction just file a claim!
But seriously.... Has it been worth it? You sleeping good? You haven’t hurt this guys shop - but you are yourself with all this stress.
The shop owner hasn’t responded to any of your posts but eh I was bored so I did. Now I am bored... Your anger and fury are much greater than my desire to continue on, it was entertaining for a moment. Poking you a little I apologize for doing that. I am sorry I made you feel like you may be attacked or have to fight someone too. I barely read your post(s) so if I got something really bad wrong again - sorry for that too. You made me laugh some but now I feel bad.

[RalphWiggam]

[Zed999]

Having been in this classic motor trade business in the past, it's really like no other, so much can go awry, delays, poor parts, damaged parts, part availability, unexpected previous bad work and hidden botches, the list goes on and on. The straightforward job is the rarity.

People had a lot of trouble with the guy who built my engine. His communication is poor regarding returning txt, email and answering the phone but if you drive there and talk to the guy he won't shut up, he loves to talk engines and makes time for anyone.

Acting as an intermediary one time I asked him about it and his reply was that he just hated to tell people there had been little or no progress because however unavoidable the delays had been, the reasons when voiced, even to his own ears sounded like lame excuses. Likewise he would never give a finish date for anything because people would then make plans and if he didn't make the date for reasons beyond his control, he still became the cause of their wasted day off work/cancelled ferry/holiday or whatever and again the reasons sounded like limp excuses for untogetherness which was never the case.

Seems like here, the OP and the shop guy had very different expectations based on the same conversation(s). It's not so unusual?

The shop guy meant they'd work on the bus as and when, between insurance jobs - Lowest priority.
The OPs understanding was the shop might have to stop now and again, but would mostly be working on his vehicle - Highest priority.

It's pretty hard to outright tell a prospective customer his job will always be at the back of the queue and still get the work, but a shop like this does those fill in jobs more or less at cost, almost like a hobby, marginally better than sitting waiting (for who knows how long) for the next insurance work. I guess you (OP) didn't understand this and why should you? Now you do, you can weigh up the next shop.

You might find a Custom Shop is similar with smaller quicker jobs jumping the queue - there are reasons - you can't tell someone that you can't do a half day job for 2 months because you're restoring a camper without loosing the work, but you can tell a 2 month job camper owner that you had to stop for half a day - because you're already doing that work, which is going to take months anyway. With the best will, that's reality.

Good luck with it, I mean that, but try to put yourself in the shop's position, reckon up how their business HAS to work and be ready for delays. These places can't exist if they turn away 20-50 potential customers or completely loose an insurance company's business to restore an old VW bus. I suggest that unless you find a shop that ONLY restores VW buses and is set up like a production line that's always going to be the way of it.

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[RalphWiggam]