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dkoesyncro
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 Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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This looks interesting, I haven't seen the "Sodo Zeit" show yet!  |
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Zeitgeist 13
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Joined: March 05, 2009
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Location: Port Manteau
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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[quote="Sodo"]
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Casey did you get a new girlfriend or something?
You've been excessively civil as of late.
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I re-marry my wife every night.
In my job as a Samba Influencer, I've been told to lighten up and go easy on the tender youngsters who can't handle my brand of Cascadian Truthiness. I'm learning to subtly undermine everyone and everything.
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dobryan
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Location: Brookeville, MD
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Sodo
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Joined: July 06, 2007
Posts: 9605
Location: Western WA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| I'm learning to subtly undermine everyone and everything. |
If only there was a Glyptal that could encapsulate abrasive social media.
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'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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dobryan
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Joined: March 24, 2006
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Location: Brookeville, MD
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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| Sodo wrote: |
| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| I'm learning to subtly undermine everyone and everything. |
If only there was a Glyptal that could encapsulate abrasive social media. |
As it pertains to our little corner of the social media world I will say that at this moment in time I am thrilled with the civility and tolerance on our forum. It has not always been such. And although we stray the helpfulness is strong in our group. Proud to be a part of the Vanagon collective.
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=695371
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Jake de Villiers
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Joined: October 24, 2007
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Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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| Sodo wrote: |
| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| I'm learning to subtly undermine everyone and everything. |
If only there was a Glyptal that could encapsulate abrasive social media. |
LOL 
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Abscate
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Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:10 am Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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[quote="Zeitgeist 13"]
| Sodo wrote: |
| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
Casey did you get a new girlfriend or something?
You've been excessively civil as of late.
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I re-marry my wife every night.
In my job as a Samba Influencer, I've been told to lighten up and go easy on the tender youngsters who can't handle my brand of Cascadian Truthiness. I'm learning to subtly undermine everyone and everything. |
I’ve learned you can say whatever you want as long as you give them a sticker
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Sodo
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Joined: July 06, 2007
Posts: 9605
Location: Western WA
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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I’ve learned you can say whatever you want as long as you give them a sticker |
I don’t think the sticker method will work ‘cuz its from the same boy who threw the rock.
It only works if other members jump in quickly and give better stickers.
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Zeitgeist 13
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Location: Port Manteau
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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I have hats; big red hats
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jimf909 
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Joined: April 03, 2014
Posts: 7466
Location: WA/ID
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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[quote="Abscate"]
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| Sodo wrote: |
| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
Casey did you get a new girlfriend or something?
You've been excessively civil as of late.
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I re-marry my wife every night.
In my job as a Samba Influencer, I've been told to lighten up and go easy on the tender youngsters who can't handle my brand of Cascadian Truthiness. I'm learning to subtly undermine everyone and everything. |
I’ve learned you can say whatever you want as long as you give them a sticker |
I've learned that there are times to treat a wife differently than a sambanista, exp. in regards to stickers.
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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r39o
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Joined: May 18, 2005
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Location: San Diego
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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Skip the Glyptal goo.
It is was used on German cars in the past to seal the sand into cast iron blocks.
As noted it is unlikely a double weld will leak.
Just true the sealing surface and wash the pan out before you stick it on.
End of discussion.....
BTW You all have scared me, my cast pan has been on for years and I have not managed to hurt it......but you never know.
Now move along, there is nothing to see!
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Sodo
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Joined: July 06, 2007
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Location: Western WA
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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As noted it is unlikely a double weld will leak.
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1 week with diesel in it.
Sitting on a white sheet of paper.
Not the slightest leak.
Yes r39o ---Mrshrimps hit was an unlucky turn of events.
Big rock in a standing rut in hardened clay at the bottom of a G-out.
My turn of events was lucky, that I had a TIG welder on hand and the desire to put a welded oilpan on the van. Not everyone will do that.
Well anyway knowledge is power, I bet Mrshrimp woulda gone in search of a welder in Boise if this was on the Samba previously.
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mrshrimp
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Location: Portland
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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Nice to see the pan is working out and you were able to weld it. This is valuable information that could have come in handy, especially of we could not source a new oilpan. But as we talked more about finding a welder it started to seem that the cost might not be feasible, assuming a welder would charge $60-80/hr. Now a home job from a samba member would have been something we maybe would have explored. Ill call you next time!
Actually want to point out that Sodo was generous to return a favor and basically allow me to order a skid plate from GW yesterday. It will need to be modified. That will be the continuation of this thread. |
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Sodo
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Location: Western WA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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Here's a pic of the welded Smallcar oilpan in use.
Happy to say the weld appears to be 'oil-tight'.
However, notice all the deburring activity from rocks caught ontop of my skidplate.
But thats a different problem, a significant one because the rocks can punch a hole in the oilpan.
Gonna cut some holes to let the rocks out. Which I'll do on this other thread:
Redesign Syncro skid bars to protect Smallcar Cast oilpan[Redesign Syncro skid bars to protect Smallcar Cast oilpan
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'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb
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bobbyblack
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Location: United States, Iowa
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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I don't disagree with some holes to let rocks drop out. But, I'd consider something to prevent rocks intruding there in the first place instead. Maybe aluminum window screen? Perhaps a bunch of stainless scrubbies stitched together like a snake, and tucked around the perimeter?
-bobby
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Sodo
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Location: Western WA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Small Car oil pan puncture ~ Solved / Follow-up |
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Bobby what I'd have to build to prevent the rocks from getting in looks really difficult. It would be a mostrosity.
First I should just try just letting them out.
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