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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:03 pm    Post subject: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karmann Ghia convertible Reply with quote

Hi,

I just recently took possession of my father in law's 1970 convertible. It is a very complete, original , almost completely rust free car. That being said, it is in need of restoration. I am going to have a professional help with the restoration, in particular the paint and the mechanicals. I plan to make take the car back to as new condition, but keeping it stock and consistent with how it came from the factory. Would welcome advice on the following parts for the car.

1. Best source for German Square weave carpet kits.

2. Best source for weather strip kits.

3. best source for hartz cloth convertible tops

4. Best source of seat upholstery and interior panels

5. Best source for dash pads

Guys, I acknowledge I am asking a lot. Thought this forum and all its members would be a really good place to start.

Thanks for any guidance or suggestions you are willing to provide.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

best advice I can give you from previous experience is to save EVERYTHING !!! some things you may be able to recondition and reuse,most aftermarket parts are substandard...

make a parts/cost list and add 40% for the inevitable...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

1. Best source for German Square weave carpet kits.
http://www.newtoncomm.co.uk/home/

2. Best source for weather strip kits.
https://www.westcoastmetric.com/

3. best source for hartz cloth convertible tops
http://www.karmannghia.com/

4. Best source of seat upholstery and interior panels
http://www.newtoncomm.co.uk/home/ or http://www.tmiproducts.com
You'll have to have a custom order done to get 100% correct.

5. Best source for dash pads
http://www.karmannghia.com/
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

Welcome to The Samba and to The Karmann Ghia Forum. Smile

The most valuable resource you'll find are the "Sticky" topics at the top of this Ghia section. Amongst them you'll find one entitled "Ghia Restoration Topics – For Instruction and Inspiration." It's heaven sent for those starting a restoration as the people who have gone before made all the mistakes. Read them and you'll share in their triumphs of getting it right in the end. Wink You'll find this one particularly useful, Phil's '69 ('70 model year) http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=615130

You'll also find the "How To" topics...invaluable. Lots of reading and searching to do but don't be frightened to ask questions too. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

Guys,

Thank you for the replies with guidance.

This wiliness to reach out and help a total stranger is what makes the VW community so cool.

I will post pictures of progress as I have updates.

Thanks again!!

Tim Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

jason_hamilton wrote:
Best source of seat upholstery and interior panels
http://www.newtoncomm.co.uk/home/ or http://www.tmiproducts.com
You'll have to have a custom order done to get 100% correct.


Sewfine is also a great supplier for seat covers and will do custom work too. I like them better than TMI and used them for all my VWs. And I agree with Jason that Newton Commercial is also an excellent source for interiors...especially for carpet.
http://www.sewfineproducts.com/
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

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It is a very complete, original , almost completely rust free car.


You should post pics. Sometimes its better (retains more value) to keep original.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

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Its been a while since I posted an update to my thread on the restoration of my wife's 1970 convertible. We are finally getting close. Painting should be complete by end of February. I hope to have the car completed by early summer.

Attached is a "before" picture and a couple of our progress.

The person doing the restoration for us is fabulous! A true perfectionist. He however does not do convertible tops.

Have any of you used a convertible top restorer that you would highly recommend? Suggestions or advice is GREATLY appreciated!

thank you very much & Happy new year.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

I had a 70 Ghia Autostick that same color. I really liked the way that color looked on that car.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

Simply asking again.

Does anyone have suggestions for a convertible top restoration?

Surely someone has had a good experience with a vendor they can share.

Thanks!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

thuestis wrote:
Simply asking again.

Does anyone have suggestions for a convertible top restoration?

Surely someone has had a good experience with a vendor they can share.

Thanks!!!
Five years ago you'd have been well advised to contact Vince, aka "ghiaddict", but he hasn't logged on here since 2014. So, seeing as you're in the Volunteer State you might ask for advice from Chuck over in Virginia https://chucksconvertibleparts.com.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

When I did my 60 bug vert I bought everything from Chuck, I did the install myself.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

Back when I was poor, the top is what made me decide on a coupe.
Nevertheless, if you still have the original, any good upholsterer can use it as a pattern. The bows are the hard part. Originally made of wood.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

thuestis wrote:
I hope to have the car completed by early summer..


2016! Razz

Gotta love the real timeline for these projects.

I was watching one of those car resto shows on TV last night,
They restored the car in under an hour! Laughing Laughing

FWIW,
If that were my car,
I'd go on the hunt for all of the top parts.
Get everything you think you might need in one place and have at it.

Then,
When you get bogged down,
Or feel in over your head,
Find a good local (automotive) upholstery shop to finish the install.

While most auto upholstery places won't know about your VW or where to get parts,
Their expertise in the finer points of a proper install might prove invaluable.


Chances are there's someone in your area who can do convertible tops,
You just have to set the stage..

JMHO..


Oh,
And,
Nice job on the resto so far!

Lovely to see a car being done properly.
Too many spray-can restos out there these days.
Congrats on taking the time to do these things correctly.. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

thuestis wrote:
Simply asking again.

Does anyone have suggestions for a convertible top restoration?

Surely someone has had a good experience with a vendor they can share.

Thanks!!!


I don't know anyone in your area. However if you get the kit from Chuck's and provide the tutorial here on this site any reputable shop in your area that does convertible tops should be able to handle it. Look for a shop that does high end tops like Mercedes which are similar in construction. I did the top on my car with the Chuck's kit and the tutorial here and had never done a top before. It came out great.

Aside from that look for a local VW specialty shop or VW club in your area. They should be able to point you to someone nearby.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

Available only when you buy a roof kit from him Chuck sells a tutorial book that guides the installation (actually a marked up version of the section from the VW Bentley book)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

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More progress on my wife's 1970 convertible. Still hoping to find a vendor that does convertible top restoration.

Hope to have the Ghia back by the fall.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

Wow nice setup and nice Ghia.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

That's a great looking car...very nice job Applause
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for restoration of a 1970 Karman Ghia convertible Reply with quote

Hey ! thuestis,

Very nice resto ....

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If you didn't have already Smile

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