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Grot Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Nepal
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:24 am Post subject: RHD Cabrio Wiring loom routing |
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I know this question has been asked before as I have spent far too much time reading old Samba posts, but no good answers appear and it was last asked some goodly time ago. So trying again may connect with new readers, at least that is what I hope!
I have a 1954 RHD Cabrio with a long history of modifications that needs a new wiring loom. I have not found anyone who reproduces this one, but templates for later 50's cabrios are available so one manufacturer will give it a go for me using the 1954 wiring diagramme and colours, and the later template.
The one that came out was laid along the inside edge of the left heater channel on the inside of the car and laid on the pan under the mats. Probably not correct as far as I can deduce. If it is supposed to travel inside the heater channel like the LHD models, where does it enter and leave the channel? The route from where it appears under the back seat towards the rear is fairly obvious.
Also, where do the semaphore wires run? Photos would be great, if anyone has loaded some in the gallery I would value the links. Here is what mine looked like where it exited under the rear seat.
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Lars B Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2006 Posts: 205 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: RHD Cabrio Wiring loom routing |
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On My 56 LHD the cable goes in the right heater channel.
Cant see any reason why the should change cable side on a RHD.
The semaphore cable goes on the rear seat bar using metal tabs (you can se one of them on your picture), and thru holes in the sides (you have the hole on your picture too)
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Maybe you have metal tabs that could indicate what the original side was.
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4561 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: RHD Cabrio Wiring loom routing |
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FYI - from the 1957 Type 1 Beetle VW parts manual
main harness - wiring (RHD) VW part #152 971 011A for Kabriolett body #15 997 up thru Kab "body" #24 510
Main harness - wiring (RHD) VW part #152 971 011D for Kabriolett "body" # 24 511 thru Kab "body" #39 038
main harness - wiring (blinker) (RHD) VW part #152 971 055 for Kabriolett up thru Kab "body" #24 510
Main harness - wiring (blinker) (RHD) VW part #152 971 055B for Kabriolett "body" # 24 511 thru Kab "body" #39 038
Similar as mentioned above by "Lars B", on my '57 LHD USA spec Kabriolet project, the main wiring harness enters the right side heater channel thru a hole/tunnel low down in the front right side quarter panel and then passes rearward thru a accordian style foil/paper hose inside and through the heater channel/body stiffener and exits back into the rear seat area thru a hole/tunnel near the floor near the rear quarter panel. I can't shed any light on the path of the harness for a RHD Kabriolett, but I image that VW simply made a different harness with longer wiring and simply used the right side heater channel too? I certainly could be wrong though.
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
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Mission VW - San Fernando
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Grot Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Nepal
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:03 am Post subject: Re: RHD Cabrio Wiring loom routing |
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Thanks for the comments guys. I have finally found another RHD 1954 to compare with, and the loom does run in the same manner as the LHD versions with different length wiring behind the dash. It runs along the inner edge of the heater channel in the groove that is pressed there. Later models, from late 1956 I think, ran inside the support rail under the heater channel inside a cardboard and metal tube. Now to mortgage my children and get a new loom made! |
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Yustrn JHC Controla
Joined: August 01, 2000 Posts: 5478 Location: Ovaland, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: RHD Cabrio Wiring loom routing |
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Grot wrote: |
Thanks for the comments guys. I have finally found another RHD 1954 to compare with, and the loom does run in the same manner as the LHD versions with different length wiring behind the dash. It runs along the inner edge of the heater channel in the groove that is pressed there. Later models, from late 1956 I think, ran inside the support rail under the heater channel inside a cardboard and metal tube. Now to mortgage my children and get a new loom made! |
There is a company in the UK that makes RHD looms for Kabrios |
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Grot Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Nepal
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: RHD Cabrio Wiring loom routing |
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Yes, Jon Aaron at vwlooms.com in the UK is building me one now. He did not have the 1954 template until he managed to get a customer car to use as his pattern recently. He has patterns for many different models, both RHD and LHD. There is also a company in Australia that has just secured an ex-UK 1955 Cabrio to use as a pattern, so they will be offering looms as well. vinwire.com.au |
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nbvolks Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2020 Posts: 344 Location: MA
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: RHD Cabrio Wiring loom routing |
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Grot wrote: |
Yes, Jon Aaron at vwlooms.com in the UK is building me one now. He did not have the 1954 template until he managed to get a customer car to use as his pattern recently. He has patterns for many different models, both RHD and LHD. There is also a company in Australia that has just secured an ex-UK 1955 Cabrio to use as a pattern, so they will be offering looms as well. vinwire.com.au |
Have you heard from Jon lately? He was building me a loom and then it's been radio silence for over a month now and I can't get a hold of him. |
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